If you have hunted out of the US since 2002

[Dinsdale]

I know this isn't common here; but there are one or two others who post/lurk here this is of interest. This is similar to newspapers wanting to publish Conceal Carry addresses......

If you happen to know someone that has maybe done a hunt, please forward this thread; this is time sensitive, 3 weeks from Nov 1.

If you have hunted out of the US and imported trophies; Human Society made a FOIA request to USF&W to release personal info of anyone from 2002 on who imported trophies. Addresses, value ,and contents are part of this info, all info on the import documentation.

There is a way to comment to USF&W to potentially stop this and you can get more info here; This is dated for Oct 31, info should be up on Nov 1 on Federal Register according to the following;

https://www.safariclub.org/what-we-do/freedom-to-hunt/first-for-hunters-blog/first-for-hunters/2016/10/31/if-you-imported-exported-wildlife-into-out-of-the-us

Even if not in SCI follow the blog at that same link and next couple days they'll update on procedure.

I know this effects only a small number of hunters, but it is a gross invasion of privacy. My info would potentially be on there several times with another crate on the way and it is ridiculous that USF&W would be compelled to release my info for such a frivolous request. 

[Lawdwaz]

I'll pass this to a couple folks I know that have hunted outside of the US since '02.

Thanks for the heads-up.

[Dinsdale]

Couldn't edit original.....

Federal register link;

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/11/01/2016-26412/freedom-of-information-act-notice-of-lawsuit

[BizCT]

Would Canada count? I've imported a few since 2002, and my Dad imported a bunch of trophies over the years since 2002 from Canada.

[Marion]

Would Canada count? I've imported a few since 2002, and my Dad imported a bunch of trophies over the years since 2002 from Canada.

Since Canada is not part of the United States I would say yes.

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[The_Real_TCIII]

20 minutes ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:

Would Canada count? I've imported a few since 2002, and my Dad imported a bunch of trophies over the years since 2002 from Canada.

me too. I appreciate this info

[Dinsdale]

4 hours ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:

Would Canada count? I've imported a few since 2002, and my Dad imported a bunch of trophies over the years since 2002 from Canada.

 

Hmmm, I'm not sure.

US has a treaty that allows import of sport hunted meat and trophies from Canada that doesn't exist with anywhere else.

Its been about 10 years since I imported Caribou and don't remember what I signed at Lacolle when stopping with paperwork....if that was a USF&W form or US Customs only.

I know you took Lynx and your dad too IIRC. That required some CITIES paperwork on the Canadian side of things I believe, but did you need to do anything for import? Bring it home as baggage or need it shipped? 

May want to ask Fox your taxidermist if anything was filed, bet he'd know if there is a paper trail with your names on them. May have needed something for tannery? Not sure.

I'm jammed up with CITES documents for a couple animals right now and awaiting export paperwork to US. Last time I looked at my file was at LAX and officer joked that I must have shot a lot of stuff as there's a long list for import for me. LOL

I got to start leaving more stuff behind, getting ridiculous.

 

[BizCT]

 
Hmmm, I'm not sure.
US has a treaty that allows import of sport hunted meat and trophies from Canada that doesn't exist with anywhere else.
Its been about 10 years since I imported Caribou and don't remember what I signed at Lacolle when stopping with paperwork....if that was a USF&W form or US Customs only.
I know you took Lynx and your dad too IIRC. That required some CITIES paperwork on the Canadian side of things I believe, but did you need to do anything for import? Bring it home as baggage or need it shipped? 
May want to ask Fox your taxidermist if anything was filed, bet he'd know if there is a paper trail with your names on them. May have needed something for tannery? Not sure.
I'm jammed up with CITES documents for a couple animals right now and awaiting export paperwork to US. Last time I looked at my file was at LAX and officer joked that I must have shot a lot of stuff as there's a long list for import for me. LOL
I got to start leaving more stuff behind, getting ridiculous.
 

I remember doing CITES for the lynx. Canadian customs thought I was saying lettuce over and over again until I showed them a picture. They had no what a lynx lol. I flew home with the lynx. My dads wolves were shipped to him months later but I believe needed CITES as well.


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[Dinsdale]

Anything CITIES is USF&W so this whole deal would apply to both of you. IMO

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SCI indicated they would put up some sample letters to make sure they are formatted correct.

I'm PM'ing one member here with updates, I can add you to list if you want.

Just can't stand the idea of some bunny hugger having my info and calling me a poacher.

Then again it would be kinda cool for one to show up at my house like they did the Dentist who shot Cecil the Lion......I have no reason to hide inside, make for some good you-tube footage anyway.

 

EDIT:

Biz I'm going to correct myself I think.....if it was Canadian for export i think you're good......If it needed more paperwork for IMPORT then it would be applicable. This is getting batted around a couple forums, I'll see if this comes up anywhere else.

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[The_Real_TCIII]

I remember doing CITES for the lynx. Canadian customs thought I was saying lettuce over and over again until I showed them a picture. They had no what a lynx lol. I flew home with the lynx. My dads wolves were shipped to him months later but I believe needed CITES as well.


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When I filled out the form the guy kept sliding it back to me to fill out antler points. I said it's a bear, and he slides it back saying you have to complete the form, getting testy. Finally the guy next to him says "bears don't have antlers ya dummy!" I wanted to applaud him but was afraid he would take my bear lol


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[Dinsdale]

Update;

https://www.safariclub.org/what-we-do/freedom-to-hunt/litigation/guidance-for-responding-to-fws-notice-concerning-foia-disclosure