Collapsible stock on bolt action rifle

[upstaterifle]

I am looking into getting a Howa Axiom .308 and want to know if the

collapsible stock it has is legal.  Been trying to find something in writing on the NYS DEC site but no luck.  Does anyone know about this and where to find the information?

[WNYBuckHunter]

Do you mean legal to hunt with or legal to own in NY? It has a pistol grip and collapsible stock, so it cannot have a detachable magazine, which it doesnt, so you are ok there. Thats for ownership in NY. You could definately use it for small game hunting (coyote, fox, etc) but Im not 100% on deer hunting. It would be best to email DEC with the question. Let us know what they say.

[WNYBuckHunter]

From the Hunting regs guide on the DEC site...

Manner of Taking

It is unlawful to:

• Take big game while the deer or bear is in water.
  
• Possess a firearm of any description when bowhunting or when accompanying a person bowhunting during special archery seasons.
  
• Make, set or use a salt lick on land inhabited by deer or bear.
  

  It is unlawful to hunt big game with:

• A firearm or bow aided by any artificial light or a laser that projects a beam toward the target.
  
• An autoloading firearm with a capacity of more than 6 shells (one  which requires that the trigger be pulled separately for each shot),  except an autoloading pistol with a barrel length of less than 8 inches.
  
• A firearm using rimfire ammunition.
  
• A shotgun of less than 20 gauge or any shotgun loaded with shells other than those carrying a single projectile.
  
• A bow with a draw weight of 35 lbs or less.
  
• Arrows with barbed broadheads; arrowheads less than 7/8 inches at the widest point or with less than 2 sharp cutting edges.
  
• Dogs.
  
• Aircraft of any kind.
  
• Bait.
  

According to that, Id say you are good to go. No mention of collapsible stock or pistol grip.

[WNYBuckHunter]

also, on this page it says no silencer or full auto lol. I think you are good, but Id just shoot an email to DEC to be sure.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/35010.html

[upstaterifle]

Thanks.  I did mean for hunting.  That is what I was looking for. 

[Pygmy]

AS long as it has a barrel of 16" for rifle, or 18" for shotgun you are good to go...

[WNYBuckHunter]

Youre welcome upstate

[upstaterifle]

absolutely.  Hopefully will be a 20" but they seem a little harder to find.  Overall it seems a littlel harder to find the gun itself. Everything I have read about it seems

very good.  Perhaps it will need a trigger job, but I am not worried about that now.

[WNYBuckHunter]

I have read alot of good things about the Howas. Never shot one, but I wouldnt mind adding one to my collection one of these days.

[FULLDRAWXX75]

I am looking into getting a Howa Axiom .308 and want to know if the

collapsible stock it has is legal.  Been trying to find something in writing on the NYS DEC site but no luck.  Does anyone know about this and where to find the information?

DEC only tells you what they allow for hunting in NYS................................ATF regulations dictates if the weapon is legal to own or possess, and who can do so.

Here is a clip from the ATF Regs:

(7) The term "rifle" means a weapon

designed or redesigned, made or remade,

and intended to be fired from the

shoulder and designed or redesigned

and made or remade to use the energy

of an explosive to fire only a single projectile

through a rifled bore for each

single pull of the trigger.

( The term "short-barreled rifle"

means a rifle having one or more barrels

less than sixteen inches in length

and any weapon made from a rifle

(whether by alteration, modification, or

otherwise) if such weapon, as modified,

has an overall length of less than

twenty-six inches.

I believe it would fall under the "short barrel rifle" ruling if the overall length is less than 26" folded, even though the barrel is 16" or more. Then you get into the special permit paperwork and red tape BS.

Both rifle and shotguns have the have specific min. barrel length & overall length specs. to be legal, unless stated otherwise in the regs.

FDXX75

[upstaterifle]

Looks like I am all good. 

Howa Axiom

Overall Length:

38 1/2" (buttstock collapsed),

42 1/2" (buttstock extended)

Weight:

10 lbs., 2 ozs. (rifle only);

11 lbs, 7 ozs. (with Nikko-Stirling scope installed)