JRE podcast, informative, very interesting. Talks in depth about CWD

[Jeremy K]

13 minutes ago, Four Season Whitetail's said:

I can tell ya I know more about the subject then anyone on this site ever will and the scientist have already proven many of the statements made above to be false. Kinda like all deer CWD positive are carriers. Look at the science and you will see that a true positive has to be both node and brain positive to in fact be a carrier. They reference a farm in Iowa at 80% positive when in fact it was only 80% that were node positive and dig a little deeper and you will see where the state of Iowa had to pay that farm 3.2 million after they lost that case in court. Need More?


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Heres the deal ,I listen to both sides of the argument ,you cherry pick the information that is beneficial to your farm and ultimately your wallet . Theres nothing else to discuss .

[Four Season Whitetail's]

Heres the deal ,I listen to both sides of the argument ,you cherry pick the information that is beneficial to your farm and ultimately your wallet . Theres nothing else to discuss .

Shows how clueless you are. This has nothing to do with my farm or anyone else's. We are not going anywhere regardless of what becomes of CWD. If you really knew anything about the subject you would know that this was the ghost that states thought they could use to get rid of farms? How did that work for them? Just made our tested farm animals worth so much more? They proved to be working for us. The bottom line is you should be listening to the science and the facts and if you do that you really won't have a lot to think about. That's your choice to believe in something that's been proven different. Guess maybe you still believe the world is flat.... Your Choice!


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[Four Season Whitetail's]

. Let That Sink In!


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[ATbuckhunter]

7 hours ago, Four Season Whitetail's said:

Just to show how much they dont care...Listen at the 15 minute mark and the 29 minute and listen to this guy say that Scrapies is the same exact prion and CWD, Just one in deer and one in sheep and he has no concern of Scrapies ever entering a person.. he even says there are 30 different strains of scrapies found and only 2 strains of CWD found.   Just listen to this guys words and you will hear him saying that CWD has never done any harm to anyone or anything yet they keep begging for money for research.

Maybe if they keep spending enough cash looking for a ghost they may find a ghost.  In the mean time the normal people...Us Hunters..That kill and eat these animals for the last 5o years never detect a thing...  Great way to scare hunting right out of the world we know..Dont worry about age being the demise of hunting....Just listen to these fools.

No offence, but I made sure to listen to both marks and you were wrong on both. He saif scrapies is in the family of CWD (a very similar protien) and it manifests in a different way than CWD. He also said that there is no evidence of it happening, but the possibility is there. We are definitely right to "throw" money at researching this as this can be a serious issue with hunters. 

[Four Season Whitetail's]

9 minutes ago, ATbuckhunter said:

No offence, but I made sure to listen to both marks and you were wrong on both. He saif scrapies is in the family of CWD (a very similar protien) and it manifests in a different way than CWD. He also said that there is no evidence of it happening, but the possibility is there. We are definitely right to "throw" money at researching this as this can be a serious issue with hunters. 

Bullshit...CWD is Scrapies just a different animal.  Lay a map of scrapies in the Us overtop of a map of CWd in the Us and you will be looking at the same map. There is no evidence in half the crap he says.. Bunch of maybe and what if's. The only positives they have is that the only way another animal contacted CWD was by some white coat injecting 1000 times more CWD positive material directly into their brain with a needle that could ever even think of happening in normal settings.  

The only thing this has to do with hunters is the scare tactics they are putting into hunters. They should team up with PETA because they are doing a better job at getting rid of hunters across the country,

[ATbuckhunter]

29 minutes ago, Four Season Whitetail's said:

Bullshit...CWD is Scrapies just a different animal.  Lay a map of scrapies in the Us overtop of a map of CWd in the Us and you will be looking at the same map. There is no evidence in half the crap he says.. Bunch of maybe and what if's. The only positives they have is that the only way another animal contacted CWD was by some white coat injecting 1000 times more CWD positive material directly into their brain with a needle that could ever even think of happening in normal settings.  

The only thing this has to do with hunters is the scare tactics they are putting into hunters. They should team up with PETA because they are doing a better job at getting rid of hunters across the country,

From the research ive done, it does not appear to be the same disease.They manifest differently and result in different resistant prion protiens (PrP res). Safe to say they are not the same, but granted they are similar. There is still a lot left to be learned about this desiese. At this point it ismore easily transmitted than mad cow disease, so the possibility is there that it can be transmitted to humans. But like every one says, the possibilities are extreemly low.  

[Four Season Whitetail's]

22 minutes ago, ATbuckhunter said:

From the research ive done, it does not appear to be the same disease.They manifest differently and result in different resistant prion protiens (PrP res). Safe to say they are not the same, but granted they are similar. There is still a lot left to be learned about this desiese. At this point it ismore easily transmitted than mad cow disease, so the possibility is there that it can be transmitted to humans. But like every one says, the possibilities are extreemly low.  

Bottom line is a person could/would get infected by either scrapies or cwd yet they worry not about scrapies.  They can do the same test with mice, monkeys and such by shooting crazy amounts of scrapies into brains and make them positive.  

At the end of the day CWD is now doing the same amount of hurt to any herds of deer or any humans as it did 60 years ago and thats none.  States that have/get cwd have more animals than they did before they found cwd. Wisconsin has the highest and they cant control their deer numbers by hunters alone...And thats a state with 40-50% infection rates. 75 deer per square mile in an infected herd of 15 plus years? Yup it sounds like cwd is really putting a hurt on those herds,

Edited August 16, 2018 by Four Season Whitetail's

[Four Season Whitetail's]

Yeah we can see a state positive for over 15 years is getting hurt by CWD like these guys make it sound to be


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[ATbuckhunter]

10 hours ago, Four Season Whitetail's said:

Bottom line is a person could/would get infected by either scrapies or cwd yet they worry not about scrapies.  They can do the same test with mice, monkeys and such by shooting crazy amounts of scrapies into brains and make them positive.  

At the end of the day CWD is now doing the same amount of hurt to any herds of deer or any humans as it did 60 years ago and thats none.  States that have/get cwd have more animals than they did before they found cwd. Wisconsin has the highest and they cant control their deer numbers by hunters alone...And thats a state with 40-50% infection rates. 75 deer per square mile in an infected herd of 15 plus years? Yup it sounds like cwd is really putting a hurt on those herds,

There is no reason to think that it will never have any serious effect on deer. Scrapies is a known fatal desiese to sheep, so whats the reason cwd cant be fatal to deer? After all you happen to believe its the same exact disease. Even if its not effecting the herd one day doesnt mean it wont down the line. As of right now thankfully there doesnt seem to be a major effect. 

[Four Season Whitetail's]

There is no reason to think that it will never have any serious effect on deer. Scrapies is a known fatal desiese to sheep, so whats the reason cwd cant be fatal to deer? After all you happen to believe its the same exact disease. Even if its not effecting the herd one day doesnt mean it wont down the line. As of right now thankfully there doesnt seem to be a major effect. 

Come on man, 100's of millions of dollars wasted chasing a ghost. Thousands of un needed killing of deer chasing a ghost. Even if CWD does kill a few deer it's that last thing a deer will ever die from. Like you getting hit by a falling star. I can see watching something but when you cry wolf over one disease and say it's a killer but then never say a word about the same exact killer in another animal that does the same exact thing. States now like Michigan that thinks they can kill it off the landscape after Wisconsin spent millions doing the same thing and now have a herd they can't control. Does having triplets in Disease areas. It's doing no harm to any herds or any people anywhere. Period.


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