phantom Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ygk1h8vRNWc&feature=youtu.be California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Saturday pledged to empower private citizens to enforce a ban on the manufacture and sale of assault weapons in the state, citing the same authority claimed by conservative lawmakers in Texas to outlaw most abortions once a heartbeat is detected. Edited December 13, 2021 by phantom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ygk1h8vRNWc&feature=youtu.be California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Saturday pledged to empower private citizens to enforce a ban on the manufacture and sale of assault weapons in the state, citing the same authority claimed by conservative lawmakers in Texas to outlaw most abortions once a heartbeat is detected. I disagree with what he is doing 100%.. however what did the Supreme Court expect when they allowed the Texas law to stand. We all knew it was a matter of time before liberals tried to use the same premises to ban guns.This is not a real attempt to use this to enforce firearms laws it’s a shot at the Texas abortion.Frankly both should be overturned Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 When did the Supreme Court decide the Texas law could stand? I only heard about the hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Chef said: I disagree with what he is doing 100%.. however what did the Supreme Court expect when they allowed the Texas law to stand. We all knew it was a matter of time before liberals tried to use the same premises to ban guns. This is not a real attempt to use this to enforce firearms laws it’s a shot at the Texas abortion. Frankly both should be overturned Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Well ones a right the other is not in the Constitution there's no right to an abortion in the Constitution so states can make their own laws on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 When did the Supreme Court decide the Texas law could stand? I only heard about the hearing.They are allowing it to remain it place and told providers they can sure certain state officials if they like Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Well ones a right the other is not in the Constitution there's no right to an abortion in the Constitution so states can make their own laws on that. Not after Roe they can’t… but Scotus will nullify that Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 When did the SCOTUS hand down a decision? I'm pretty sure it won't come out until summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 When did the SCOTUS hand down a decision? I'm pretty sure it won't come out until summer.https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-463_3ebh.pdfSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 When did the SCOTUS hand down a decision? I'm pretty sure it won't come out until summer.and here is why it’s dumb https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texastribune.org/2021/12/10/scotus-texas-abortion-law-constitutional-rights/amp/The Court is now attacking our 2nd amendment rights Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Chef said: Not after Roe they can’t… but Scotus will nullify that Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Like I said it's not in the Constitution roe was wrong and that's why it's getting overturned even liberal justices have said it that are for abortion. Thats something states are supose to decide on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Chef, you're referring to the certiorari before judgment, that's not a final decision. that just allows Texas to keep the law until the SCOTUS rules on the issue. Nothing has been finalized yet by the SCOTUS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Chef, you're referring to the certiorari before judgment, that's not a final decision. that just allows Texas to keep the law until the SCOTUS rules on the issue. Nothing has been finalized yet by the SCOTUS.Correct but that law on the books opens the for for liberal states to do the same thing with gun control. It is a Irresponsible law, that has opened the door for other constitutional rights to be attacked Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Just now, Chef said: Correct but that law on the books opens the for for liberal states to do the same thing with gun control. It is a Irresponsible law, that has opened the door for other constitutional rights to be attacked No, it doesn't. The problem with abortion is it's lack of standing in the US Constitution. It is never mentioned and is not enumerated as a right, especially a natural born one. It was granted by the court, which makes it a privilege. If the govt creates a "right", the govt can also remove it. The 2nd Amendment is a right recognized from the beginning of this nation as being a "God given right" one is born with, to defend their life. The states are going to fail in this attempt to retaliate against a Constitutional right that has no relationship to the govt granted privilege they are upset is being questioned. Vindictive legislation has always been frowned upon by the SCOTUS for the very reason it is being proposed now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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