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Tiffany is nothing but annoying to me. That cutesy crap gets old real quick. And her husband is no better.2 points
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Have some of you guys been living under a rock?? This video was shot 8 freakin years ago. This video was first brought out by your friends in peta. They might point this one thing out because it was the worst they could find. Now for some reason Qdm is taking a shot at deer farms and high fence hunting. To ant and a few others..To each their own is just what it is!!! Period..You better get ready to see many more high fences is ny alone.. I have had 4 calls in the last 3 weeks from new deer farms and high fence hunting looking to buy my genitics. A guy called today from down near johnstown i believe he said and he is looking to buy 25 or more bred does to put behind high fence for his 2 families. He says he is sick of seeing no deer on his property.. Hence the fence and hence to each his own. Just to let a couple that dont know my deer are sold for breeding stock and making scents. No high fence hunting on my 6 acres fenced in areas.Also the farm in the video is still in operation. The term fair chase can be used in so many ways i thought i would give some of yas a little something to think about. And just so we are very clear on this i in no way agree with what went on in the video. But i do believe if a person wants to pay to harvest an animal behind fence that is their choice and i believe we live in america with choices... To each their own!!!!!!!!! "I see this little phrase come up from time to time. What I’m about to write might infuriate some and please others and leave others thinking about where they stand on this little phrase. My thoughts on the phrase “Fair Chase” in a nutshell is basically, has got to be the most dangerous word to outdoor men and women and our pursuits in the wild when it comes to hunting, trapping and fishing. The phrase in my opinion is probably the most responsible for hunting, trapping and fishing rights lost over the years, pitting one outdoorsmen and women against another. Simply put fair chase is basically not just a phrase but an attitude and a tool to justify ones way of doing things, while sacrificing those of another. We see it all the time when issues come up such as the use of cross bows, high fence, hunting with hounds, trapping and the list goes on. The animal rights groups love that little phrase, because they have it figured out, and know those two words are their meal ticket for pushing their agenda. Their agenda, banning all forms of hunting, trapping and fishing, period. I’ve heard it said many times before, don’t know who the originator of it is but it goes something like this; “in order for a hunt to be fair chase, we would have to hunt with what we came into this world with, naked and our two bare hands.” And that would be true in my opinion. Animals survive with what they were born with, necessary to survive. Man on the other hand were born with a thinking brain, to solve problems to give us an edge. When it comes to hunting, we surely can’t run as fast as most animals, so man thought of ways to do the running for him, spears, bows, traps, guns etc. If we were to take a step back in time with our modern hunting equipment, we most likely would be worshipped on what we had to make our hunting more successful, that edge so to speak. Man has always used his most important weapon, his brain, when it comes to hunting, trapping and fishing. Because that’s our biggest weapon in order to survive and to equal out our physical short comings to the game we pursue. I’ve heard so many arguments over the years on what was fair chase, things like running coons, cats or coyotes with hounds not being fair chase, or baiting is not a fair chase practice or high fence hunting isn’t real hunting, or trapping isn’t fair chase because the animal doesn’t have a running chance. To all that I say hogwash. Hunting with dogs is more than just turning dogs loose, there’s training, breeding and basically one’s way of life or way of doing things, they have a passion for it and they’ve figured a way to use man’s best friend to aid him in hunting, using the dogs as a tool. Baiting is just another form of hunting, no different in my opinion than placing out doe in heat or sitting on a corn field, your using the animals needs and instincts against them in order to gain an edge, same as just sitting on a ridge where you can see several yards and perched on the ridge with your trusty 300 mag. To reach out and touch one. It wouldn’t make much sense to sit there with a pistol or slug gun, no, we utilize the tools we have, to give us that edge. Now a deer walks up to within 40yds and you have the 300 mag in your lap are you gonna pass up the deer because he’s not 300 yds out, I don’t think so. Same with high fence, some say it’s not sporting or fair chase. Well think about this, a lot of high fence are 100’s and even 1000’s of acres, where the deer roam where ever they will in basically in the same settings as their wild counter parts, just better taken care of. there are quite a few hunters out there that don’t have the luxury of time on their side to enjoy the outdoors the way a lot of us do, their business men and women with busy schedules or locked in a city with no land they know of to hunt on or the time, but yet have a love and a passion to hunt just like the rest of us. I’ve heard it said trapping doesn’t give the animals a sporting chance, well most of that comes from those never doing it, just like I suspect with the other claims of why this or that isn’t fair chase. Trapping involves knowing your target well, well enough to put his foot on a pan or trigger no bigger than say 3”x 3” in order to get caught, you need to know their habits, what makes them tick just like pursuing any other thing like hunting or fishing. So why condemn something or tactic another uses? Could be a number of reasons , jealousy, greed, or just plain stubbornness because that’s not how I do it. And each time we attack another’s legal way of doing things, we in essence are driving a nail in our own coffin for future use by the anti’s. Take for example your on the front lines in a war, and all the tall guys are getting killed. Everyone gets together and says, lets not use tall guys in this fight, it’ll eliminate anyone getting killed. So they do and go back into battle and now the medium height guys are getting waxed. So they have another meeting and decide, ok lets just use short guys, to prevent any further damage and fatalities. Now the enemy has the advantage of less troops in the ranks and basically over runs the troops and wins the battle. And in essence that’s what we are doing to ourselves when we start acting under the guise of fair chase. We essentially are sacrificing another’s way of doing things in order to preserve our own, but in reality we are destroying ourselves and our numbers in the ranks that allows us to be over run by the opposition.. We may not agree on everyone else’s way of hunting or pursuits, but know this, everyone of us that hunts, traps or fishes has a love and passion for what they do, just as much as the next guy or gal, even if his/her way is different than ours.. Ben Franklin once said; “We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.” No truer words have been spoken when this country first began, and feel those words hold true for the outdoorsmen/women of today."2 points
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Ted wants people to be able to excercise their 2nd Amendment rights. He is pro hunting and very informed and knowlegeable on the issues. He is also willing to stick his neck out and have people criticize him and call him an idiot, in order to debate the issues. I don't find fault with that. I don't think anyone can argue against what he says. They just don't like the way he says it. If you can't argue with the message, attack the messenger. It just aggravates me that hunters and gun owners attack him. Especially when they don't have any alternative pro-gun, pro-hunting spokesperson to suggest or offer as his replacement. I guess they would rather nobody defends our side of the issue when it is attacked and theatened by the anti's. I don't think he hurts our side. I think not challenging attacks from the other side hurts our side more.2 points
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I was with you until you knocked the guy shooting the spikes and forkies. I am that guy, and I am definitely a hunter. I consider myself blessed with any deer I take.1 point
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Who knows, maybe the sound won't bother the toms at all... There was a time when I would not have believed that a gobbler would walk right up to a popup blind set up in the open, but they will... I have a hunting buddy in Florida who hunts with his recurve out of a custom popup blind, and he often sets up under cover of darkness within full view of a roosting tom. He kills his limit in Florida and Georgia every year, and most of his shots are under 15 yards. They might think that the sound is the gobbler drumming. Judging by some of the Gawd-awful calling I have heard some hunters do and still kill turkeys, that is not out of the realm of belief. In any case, when the gobbler gets within 50 or 75 yards of the decoy, it's time to stop calling, moving the decoy or whatever and get ready to make your shot.1 point
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What bubba said. And that whole if you disagree with Obama you're a racist thing is pretty pu- - y1 point
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four season i took the time to read you post and yes there is and will be a demand for this kind of hunting, the problem is in the way it is presented to the public by the media , resulting in the viewer beliving there is a big buck behind every tree. or how easy hunting is. this give the new hunter false hope and beliefs in what to expect. reallife every day person normal hunting is not like this.. they buy a bunch of advertized crap, go out see squat, and give up the sport or drive themselves/their spouse/family nuts trying to emulate their tv heros. it is not a healthy thing at all. where if the show actually showed the true footage/fences their reality wouldn't be so convoluted.1 point
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Not sure if directed to me, but no, I would not hunt Bear or any animal over any kind of bait. My goal is to hunt bear on its terms like I do whitetail. I try to learn where the animals forage their natural food sources are. Probably will not get a bear for 10 years but when I do..... I'll be very happy.1 point
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Because to them, it's all about gun control and nothing to do with crime control.1 point
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One day bow and one day 12ga. Haha thats so funny I forgot to laugh!! I would have to sue myself, no?1 point
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There should NOT be a law to mandate wearing Blaze Orange . You should know what the hell you are shooting at and if in doubt , don't shoot . It's that simple !1 point
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Teds methods are rather unorthodox to say the least but he drives the point home and unlike many put under pressure, he still manages to get his point across... i know its a love hate relationship when it comes to Ted and i was not a big fan of him BUT having said that i CAN NOT hate a man who fights for our right to own a gun more then any individual out there. He has put more time and effort into fighting for that right then anyone i know and for this i can respect the guy...1 point
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Yeh, let's play the "race" card. Nice try but no one is a bigger racist than Obama, turning on his white grandmother that raised him.1 point
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Actually they all did. The British considered all colonists military conscripts. They failed to show up and fight for the British, instead fighting against them. Nugent was NOT a draft dodger, he was awarded a 2-S (student) deferment because he was enrolled as a student at Oakland Community College Please provide facts with your statement, this is not CNN or MSNBC.1 point
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Wow, that's shocking!! Exercising his 1st and 2nd Amendments at one time. 200 years ago people did the same thing. They were called the founders of a nation, patriots. That is why they documented their actions and called it the Constitution. So people would not forget what happens when governments start over reaching their bounds.1 point
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Ted has more character than Obama. He doesn't smoke or do drugs like Obama. I would say Obama is bad for hunters and 2nd Amendment righs, not Ted.1 point
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Next time do not call the cops, just make a bigger ditch... This is what people will do if he is convicted, to protect yourself from our gov... After protecting yourself from a threat... Police get very upset with anyone else who uses guns... Only they are allowed to fire a warning shot it's illegal for anyone else to do so. Typical example of how it is ok for me but not you... When was the last time a cop was arrested for firing a warning shot? This is just stupidity.1 point
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Jerry...God BLESS the little Darlins'...Hehehehe.. Can't hate a girl that chooses to make a lot of men HAPPY, instead of making one man MISERABLE...1 point
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