Four Seasons

You think because an animal that does not have to deal with two animals makes them less wild? That’s pretty funny right there. And the facts are that many places that have hunting ranches deal with vermin year round…Hence the deer are still dealing with them…. It’s just that owners of said ranches get to deal with them at anytime on their terms. It’s that private property thing again

You should call it just what it is. A hunting ranch or hunting preserve. Has nothing to do with a farm.

In the real world Any farmer that owns livestock on their private property have the right to protect that livestock from any threat from any vermin be it wild bear or tame house dog. Not sure how you would think that those things would not be considered endangering someone’s livestock but I guess someone that does not have 100’s of 1000’s at stake may not. Maybe that’s why rules and laws were made. Not that it would stop me from protecting them regardless.

Well I guess if man feeds any kind of animal any kind of feed it could be called farming. In the real world on a “Farm” the pens are usually 1 acre in size with very little cover and farms have a class A license that allows them to sell deer alive. A preserve is made up of one big pen with piles of cover and they have a class B license that allows them to move dead deer off the property but nothing alive. So in the real world there is a big difference. Definition of something can be stretched to meet someone’s agenda if they so had one.

See even you use a bigger buck to try and drive your point…. A 20 inch 8pt buck.. so tell how many of those have you takin? Notice how you didn’t say crotch horn or basket 6? It’s always the bigger bucks used as the driver.

Have you ever priced out a 4-6 inch piece of antler packaged for dog treats? Huge Profit!! But regardless of that the Health of the yearlings and unsold 2yr olds along with any humans working with them come first. The weapons always come off as soon as they are sharpened.

And yet another. 5 grand for deer and another 1500 for spring Turkey all on less then 200 acres. And even Crappy will see the big pusher words in there….Big Buck Territory.

Business always comes before bullshit. Tizz the money season.

Exactly because it never was. And his 10 years should say 25 years because that’s as long as we have had the farm and nobody hunts on a farm.

After him making numerous comments about being afraid of shooting the wrong buck that kinda played itself out. Obviously he is not real sure of himself, his skills or his hunting prowess and with how many 100’s of thousands of dollars walking around on these ranches.

And again how many years have you been told that we do not hunt on our Farm as it’s a farm. Did you not see the two pictures above in a post of a buck at night in a pic and then a couple bucks standing at a feeder? I have vested interests in 3 different hunting operations with other owners. And that matters how? Regardless of who owns it or where it’s located it’s all doing the same job.

You will pay them the cash when you get there. They will be the one picking out which buck it is and you will pay accordingly. If it’s 120 class buck it will be 3 grand. You shoot the wrong buck and you own it. And your going to agree to be questioned and videoed at their discretion?

Chef agrees to the terms I will get him a date. It’s not just my operation and not real keen in a guy having doubts of being able to shoot the correct deer in a facility with 200-300 inch bucks running around but he puts up the cash for the size of the deer we pick out and he agrees to all the video rules and it’s a done deal. If this is going to happen this will be used for high fence operations all across the country.

So after saying your afraid of shooting the wrong buck on a number of occasions you would have no problem cutting a security check to cover any accidental mishaps. Refundable of course. That way my other partners involved have their bases covered. And you agree to sign off and be videoed and pictured to use anywhere anytime at our discretion.

One specific deer born and raised in that over a square mile that has over 200 acres of ponds, swamps and wetlands. Just as this buck is as nocturnal as they get even inside. All but impossible to kill in 3 days without the rut or manipulation by man. Now to go into the breeding pens and sit by one of the 20 feed stations for the higher end breeding stock. Even Wolc could kill a real buck.

Yup. All those ‘it’s so easy’ guys like to run the trap yet never have the nad’s to step up to the plate. I don’t care how good of a Hunter people think they are. You can’t kill what you can’t see. We have to go to extremes at times to remove some of the misfits in the preserve. And that’s the small one. There is a 1500 acre preserve that we have to bring friend and family in during the off seasons to hunt and remove excess. A lot of people like to yap about things they are totally clueless to. And yes. Your analogy is just another excuse for those people to use.

Well yes. That’s what happens when you are able to retire in your 30’s. Sucks big time.

After hearing him say a few times that he was afraid that he might shoot the wrong deer I have to admit we are a little apprehensive about the whole thing. Of course if it’s that simple and all with it being in a pen maybe he should put some skin in the game to prove how simple it really is. Funny how there are a lot of other mouthpieces on here talking about him yet they didn’t have the nads to step up to the plate. That says everything.

Why don’t we let you take his place. You cut the check ahead of time just in case one of those 3 month olds with buttons already showing walks out.

And that’s sweet for a Ny 8. Congrats.

If a bear is in with your livestock it’s already actively damaging your livestock.

Lol. Exactly what I have been saying for years. Any animal can be manipulated to do as you want when you have the control. 1000 acres of no fence and I can get a lot of the deer to go where I want with manipulation. Hunting some of these bucks that were born behind fence one ai one is all but impossible. There are bucks like the one above that you will never see in the daylight until the rut rolls around and even then being let to do their own thing it would take a good Hunter to kill him. When a guy goes on a guided hunt in Iowa he pays big money for a chance at a buck. When a guy goes on a high fence hunt he pays to Get a buck. Very rarely does a Hunter pre pick a buck and then come in and harvest that buck. 60% of the time they upgrade to a larger deer after they lays eyes on him. As far as the deal with Chef and his talk of shooting the wrong deer… which I have no clue how that would happen, identify target???? I’m not so sure we even want to risk it. If he was to throw a deposit down or such just in case he screws up…. Then you know he would identify his target then game on as long as he agrees to all the other stipulations. He would end up being the whipping boy on Utube used all across the country when it came to the….It would be so easy crowd. As far as minerals or bait? It does not really matter because it’s happening all across the state and most could give two craps about the dumb laws because the apple tree or food plot does the same exact thing.

I have a strong feeling you are wrong on your last statement. You quote my post with your idiotic statements that it’s easier to kill a Turkey behind fence? What a stupid statement Remembering that 10 grader you were talking about yesterday? I guess you can figure the rest out.

So in your brain you calculate that the birds in the preserve were hand fed, Put in the preserve and now can’t get out? Please tell me that’s your line of thinking!

Now don’t be raining on his parade with real life facts.