Four Seasons

One specific deer born and raised in that over a square mile that has over 200 acres of ponds, swamps and wetlands. Just as this buck is as nocturnal as they get even inside. All but impossible to kill in 3 days without the rut or manipulation by man. Now to go into the breeding pens and sit by one of the 20 feed stations for the higher end breeding stock. Even Wolc could kill a real buck.

Yup. All those ‘it’s so easy’ guys like to run the trap yet never have the nad’s to step up to the plate. I don’t care how good of a Hunter people think they are. You can’t kill what you can’t see. We have to go to extremes at times to remove some of the misfits in the preserve. And that’s the small one. There is a 1500 acre preserve that we have to bring friend and family in during the off seasons to hunt and remove excess. A lot of people like to yap about things they are totally clueless to. And yes. Your analogy is just another excuse for those people to use.

Well yes. That’s what happens when you are able to retire in your 30’s. Sucks big time.

After hearing him say a few times that he was afraid that he might shoot the wrong deer I have to admit we are a little apprehensive about the whole thing. Of course if it’s that simple and all with it being in a pen maybe he should put some skin in the game to prove how simple it really is. Funny how there are a lot of other mouthpieces on here talking about him yet they didn’t have the nads to step up to the plate. That says everything.

Why don’t we let you take his place. You cut the check ahead of time just in case one of those 3 month olds with buttons already showing walks out.

And that’s sweet for a Ny 8. Congrats.

If a bear is in with your livestock it’s already actively damaging your livestock.

Lol. Exactly what I have been saying for years. Any animal can be manipulated to do as you want when you have the control. 1000 acres of no fence and I can get a lot of the deer to go where I want with manipulation. Hunting some of these bucks that were born behind fence one ai one is all but impossible. There are bucks like the one above that you will never see in the daylight until the rut rolls around and even then being let to do their own thing it would take a good Hunter to kill him. When a guy goes on a guided hunt in Iowa he pays big money for a chance at a buck. When a guy goes on a high fence hunt he pays to Get a buck. Very rarely does a Hunter pre pick a buck and then come in and harvest that buck. 60% of the time they upgrade to a larger deer after they lays eyes on him. As far as the deal with Chef and his talk of shooting the wrong deer… which I have no clue how that would happen, identify target???? I’m not so sure we even want to risk it. If he was to throw a deposit down or such just in case he screws up…. Then you know he would identify his target then game on as long as he agrees to all the other stipulations. He would end up being the whipping boy on Utube used all across the country when it came to the….It would be so easy crowd. As far as minerals or bait? It does not really matter because it’s happening all across the state and most could give two craps about the dumb laws because the apple tree or food plot does the same exact thing.

I have a strong feeling you are wrong on your last statement. You quote my post with your idiotic statements that it’s easier to kill a Turkey behind fence? What a stupid statement Remembering that 10 grader you were talking about yesterday? I guess you can figure the rest out.

So in your brain you calculate that the birds in the preserve were hand fed, Put in the preserve and now can’t get out? Please tell me that’s your line of thinking!

Now don’t be raining on his parade with real life facts.

Farmers can get just about any kind of permits. Be it Nuisance, Damage, harassment. Dogs on your property harassing your livestock are no different then wildlife doing it.

Bears are worse then yotes on high fence ranches. We can put predator fencing along the bottom to stop the yotes from digging thru. Bears climb up the posts or at the H corner posts like its not even there. This guy was hanging around the home farm this summer. This pic was the next night after it had a couple 22mag shots over its head and at its feet. It came back the 4th night and dealt with. Once they get the taste of easy fawns they will cause mass destruction if allowed. The other pic is one killed this morning about 500 yards from the pens.

We could never be partners if the bottom line was to be successful. Instead of getting them up to this stage where they belong you would be plugging them as yearling for a burger. Lol. Never Work. This dude is another that does not like his pic taken in the daylight. Hunting these is not a simple task by any means without like everything else in life. Man gets involved.

The does are just if not more important then the bucks. And they both share in driving the industry to what it craves. Bigger Bone.

No sarcasm needed or intended. I mean the man made the statement which will prove all but impossible and at times you sound like I should make it easier for him. He will try to do something very few could accomplish including myself. We have had them disappear for a week and longer thinking they drowned or got gored or the bear or yotes got him only to show back up on cameras. High fence can be made very simple or all but impossible. It’s all in the game.

His target would be very easy to tell rack wise. Maybe 25% would be in that size category but I would guess even less. Again he is in a fence remember? Maybe I could paint ball it for him to help him out.. If I could lay eyes on him. I’m not going island swimming looking for him. Should be pretty easy when at the end of the day they can’t just disappear.

Proud? Because I speak facts? Sorry if you can’t live In the real world.

Learning? He will know exactly what buck he is hunting? He will be in there by himself…I hope your not saying that he would not/could not identify said buck before pulling the trigger? I hope he has better prowess then that. There are bucks in there from 100inches up to 300 plus. He would not even be targeting more the. 3/4 of the deer that are in there. Hunters are with guides 100% of the time and they make the decision on which animal to harvest most times on the spot. A guy might come in looking for a 180 typical and pull the trigger on the first 200 nontypical that they encounter. Every Hunt is different. He will be setting his sites on one of the cull bucks that will still be the biggest he would probably ever harvest in this state but also with that one of the smartest in there also. They know every island in there every beaver bog, you name it. They also know they are not anywhere near the top of the pecking order so at times that keeps them out of areas where some of the larger bucks may hang out.

I made the deal with him for a one on one because of how easy he thinks it really is. He will see 300inch Whitetails but they won’t look anything like the trail cam pics of the buck he will be hunting. Not even remotely close.

Negative. There are some pretty high dollar ladies in there kicking out some beauties. These are not stocked deer with big yellow tags in their ears. These deer are born and bred inside the enclosure and use the water better then any duck around. They know that area better then any man.

No doubt there are some smart ladies but to say that a mature doe is harder to kill then a mature buck across the board is just stupid. And then to throw that wall up. Oh My.

You seriously make that statement when you are offered to hunt a deer one on one in an enclosed sanctuary? That could end up being a big issue. My question to you would be if it’s so simple how could that statement even be made? I mean does the target not need to be identified before pulling the trigger? It’s. It like you are having a drive put on to you? You will sign a release before you step into the place with about half of it being bodies of lager water and so many swamps. You will sign and agree to be pictured/video and interviewed daily by any by anyone of our choosing as you leave the gate daily. If this is going to happen you will be the first pawn of all pawns that would most likely be used across the country. Even if you win the game.

Your statement has nothing to do with my business and if you were able to kill two mature bucks a year then your..A mature buck is easier to kill statement might hold water. Obviously your age and your harvests show the totally opposite. And your so full of shit on the meat bullshit because obviously when you finally do kill a buck with big antlers… in your mind…. You have to post it on every thread on this site. Talk about a deer that gave a guy a woody. Again my point and fact. Antlers are the driver in most and I mean most hunters. They all get the freakin meat regardless of what they shoot. That’s not a tough one.

Please do tell. You don’t see me throwing up totally bullshit statements and then show pictures of my kills. Where are my skills even brought up in this thread? Do Tell.