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They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
So they're not all Republican states, and the vax rate has nothing to do with new cases. -
They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
Can you site a source for this info or did you get it from CNN? https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html BTW vaccination has nothing to do with people having the virus or being able to spread it. Vaxxed people still get it and spread, they just have less chance of dying from it, if you believe the virus makers. -
Well, imagine if a lot of people from a certain country moved in and were able to control the majority of the vote in a local town. The citizens would suddenly find their representatives catering to the non-citizens and their interests might not be in line with what the citizens want. EX: Pushing to stop flying the American flag in town as an extreme example.
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Just to be clear, that is a Fox "Sterlingworth" shotgun. Very well made, strong SXS that is quite collectible but can be used in the field all season.
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They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
I posted this prior, but apparently few read it. -
They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
The unvaccinated were not an issue when the numbers were way down. (And there is no scientific evidence that indicates they are the cause of the spike in numbers now.) Then the border was opened at the same time we were told the Delta variant was here. Numbers started to climb and the propaganda focused on the numbers. At the same time the state audits started to supply info about fraud in the 2020 election, and people started to question all of the things Biden was doing in the country that made no sense. If there is propaganda being used to distract the masses from real issues, it's the COVID fear mongering coming from the left. -
They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
You cannot deny the influx of illegals is having a significant impact on COVID numbers and expect to be considered credible. If you could site a credible source to validate your opinion, you might have a chance, but I think you will be hard pressed to find one. -
They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
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They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
Biden has been allowing illegals across the border for 6 months now and their numbers have reached 1 million or more. They are coming from places with extremely low vaccination rates and high COVID positive rates. Those are facts. If this administration has been transporting them around the country for months now and they have high infection rates, why would you say it's a drop in the bucket? If one person is in a populated area, they can start a spread of the virus that will affect hundreds of people within days. The spike in the number of COVID hosts seems to correspond to this administration's disregard of the massive influx of illegals. The COVID numbers were way down before this started. That's not a talking point. The hosts coming across the border now is small compared to what is in the US now, but what is in the US now may very well be because of what has come over the border in the last 6 months. -
Non citizens profiting from the US are required to pay US taxes, but are not entitled to representation because they are not citizens of the US. This is something that is clear to anyone making money in the US that is not a US citizen. Giving them the power to vote, gives non citizens the power to influence US elected officials to work against the interests of their own citizens. Only a leftist would propose such a thing, as it helps to destroy America.
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They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
The last few months the virus was very well under control, not running rampant. Numbers for infections and deaths were way down. Since Biden started letting illegals in to the tune of 1 million or more, suddenly it IS running rampant again. I think there might be a connection. And since he's intentionally letting them in, and intentionally spreading them around the country, I think there may be a connection to the idea he's using them to distract from all the leftist crap he's jamming down our throats and the results of the state election audits that are about to be published. Personally I see this virus as being about the least dangerous thing we have to worry about happening in this country today. -
Political humor
Grouse replied to Water Rat's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
I copy and paste many of them. I don't know why they disappear. -
They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
The left has painted the unvaccinated as disease-spreading vagrants. They're not. https://www.westernjournal.com/bidens-vaccine-narrative-shattered-singapore-data-shows-majority-sick-vaccinated/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=westernjournalism&utm_content=2021-07-30&utm_campaign=manualpost&fbclid=IwAR1TtOZP2FeUIBfFMTcFRfDanc7TJGXQ9ahs1wLgZkHYKejyCsWamuxZT2k -
They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
People who mask-shame, watch left-wing CNN and virtue signal about their vaccine status often shout down their opposition, declaring those with whom they disagree to not be “scientists.” One doesn’t need to be a scientist to read a graph. All available data shows that new efforts by Democrats to seemingly make masks a permanent part of life are based not on science but on a desire for power. The American left has relied for more than a year on people being afraid and compliant as they transform the country into a socialist cesspit where they can use COVID as a pretense to seize control of elections. It’s challenging to see how those in charge can accomplish that feat if people simply look at the information proved by the scientists for themselves and behave accordingly. Then again, those pushing fear about new disease variants are the same people who are the gatekeepers of information. Read it for yourself: https://www.westernjournal.com/despite-delta-alarmism-covid-19-deaths-hit-16-month-low/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=westernjournalism&utm_content=2021-07-30&utm_campaign=manualpost&fbclid=IwAR1qYp5jPk3cu5dPNxyiMdrbd-Ko0qoMLWpn8N2Pj3SaqxH9TqEtLDd4uNA -
Political humor
Grouse replied to Water Rat's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
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They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
Many states, including NY did this in 2020, only to find the hospitals lost millions and the COVID patients had more than enough resources at their disposal in the hospitals. Plus people who needed preventative care were denied that care to the detriment of their health. Cancer doesn't wait for treatment. This has proven to be another bad decision regarding the handling of the virus. -
They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
People don't "freak out" over these things. They try to point out the issues that need to be addressed with these things prior to allowing the govt force them down our throats. They don't have an "irrational fear" of these things. They have legitimate concerns. They also have legitimate concerns about the virus, but it's tempered by concerns about the govt abusing it's power because of the virus. The govt could have chosen to isolate the vulnerable in a luxury resort hotel in a beautiful area for far less money than it spent to lock down the US and pay for all the things that had no effect on the virus or it's death rate. But it chose to force the heavy hand of govt on all of the citizens to the detriment of the entire country. Either the govt is quite stupid, or it's evil. Either way the people are it's victims. -
They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
The flaw in your statement is that the survival rate is based on the people who get the virus. Not all 328 million Americans will get it and many who do will either not report it or be asymptomatic, so the number is not as big as the hyperbole would make one believe. We know, and have a lot of evidence to prove, the numbers the govt claims have died from the virus, have actually died from other causes, but supposedly tested positive for the virus. Also. the tests have been proven to be inaccurate in many cases. That kind of info is another reason why many people are wary of getting the shot. The govt has destroyed it's own credibility with this type of misinformation. -
They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
Or partisan politics. -
They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
Chef, are you actively protesting the illegal alien invasion bringing the virus into the country as much as you are protesting people not wearing masks? Gobbler Chaser, how about you? Are you as mad at Democrats about this as you are about the unvaxxed? -
They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
That is another big contradiction from the govt regarding the virus I forgot to mention. Thank you. If this was really about ending this virus and public health, the border would not be open. It actually supplies evidence the govt is using this virus to control the public and abuse it's power for political gain. Wearing a mask isn't going to protect you from the damage massive illegal immigration is going to cause. -
They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
I wonder if the people who think all of the destruction the govt mandates and lock downs caused were the "socially responsible" thing to do when the suicide rate skyrocketed and the deaths from drugs and alcohol almost match the deaths from the virus? Add to that all of the damage to the economy, national debt and election integrity and ask yourself if we are better off than we would have been if the govt stayed away from abusing it's power. BTW, it has been proven China's negligence caused all of this, so why aren't our elected "leaders" suing China for damages? Are they too closely aligned with China too represent the people who elected them? -
They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
Being here for 18 months now, after being told to flatten the curve for two weeks, isn't enough? -
They want us to start wearing masks again???
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in General Chit Chat
Can you cite the Constitutional or legal authority the govt has to make any such law controlling the people like that? We are a country of laws and the Constitution is the Rule of Law. People can comply with illegal laws if they so desire, but I think this virus has been used by the govt to expand it's powers exponentially with the people's consent. That is what needs to be changed.