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I think ammo makers need to start supplying some info with regards to how much they are producing, in what cartridges and who they are selling it to. I strongly suspect a very large part of their production is going to government agencies. That may be what limits the supply available to us. The US government should have it's own ammo production facility capable of producing all of the ammo that it needs for government use. I have heard ammo makers say they will not ramp up production because they feel the civilian demand for ammo will not last in the future. To me that sounds like they know something we don't know. Have they sold out to the government and are they going to throw us all under the bus?

Maybe you did it inadvertently without realizing it. Do you see the line in this thread that says it was edited by you? I'm just wondering what is going on here.

Does anyone else but me see this note in this thread. Fasteddie says he doesn't see it. 22 hr fasteddie changed the title to The Government Is the Biggest Purveyor oisif Mnformation

I doesn't apply to Trump and still hating him is a mental disorder. That's hilarious.

That's not the definition of "Trump". What's funny is what a joke you are. trump1 noun noun: trump; plural noun: trumps 1. a valuable resource that may be used, especially as a surprise, in order to gain an advantage. noun: trump card; plural noun: trump cards "in this month General Haig decided to play his trump card: the tank" 2. dated•informal a helpful or admirable person. "Spencer's doctor is a trump—I am like a new man" verb verb: trump; 3rd person present: trumps; past tense: trumped; past participle: trumped; gerund or present participle: trumping 1. (in bridge, whist, and similar card games) play a trump on (a card of another suit), having no cards of the suit led. "why on earth did you trump my ace?" 2. beat (someone or something) by saying or doing something better. "taste trumps most if not all other factors when consumers choose food products"

And lets not forget how the MAIN STREAM MEDIA pushes falsehoods and lies. Why do people believe them? https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/content/why-the-mainstream-media-refuses-to-learn-anything-about-guns/

I really hate it when you compliment someone on their mustache and then suddenly she’s not your friend anymore

And let's not forget the "Climate Change" misinfo that affects us all in the price we pay for everything. https://www.prageru.com/video/the-real-climate-crisis?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=5minvideos&fbclid=IwAR2HztpQmnLqtFujq3pgfZ07tGOkkNp-3m9_CSuMXYepshjsb-es94gxsBQ

They do not load a cartridge. They load a bullet down the muzzle and a powder charge cartridge in the breech. So they actually are a muzzleloader as far as the bullet goes, but not as far as the powder goes. That's why some states are not allowing them. Remember, we are talking about a "special" season, not the general rifle deer season. What makes it "special" are the limitations imposed to take part in it. Chip away at the limits and you risk elimination of the "special" season.

ML seasons were devised after rifle technology had advanced far beyond black powder. They were meant to allow hunters to challenge themselves with primitive weapons. A special season was allowed due to the difficulty of being successful and low harvest expectations. PA still has a flintlock only season that won't allow caplocks to be used. Technology advanced in ML with inlines and states allowed inlines to be used, but only if they had to be loaded from the muzzle. The new powder cartridge breach loaded, but muzzle stuffed bullet rifles are not being accepted in many states and may prove to be the straw that breaks the camel's back for ML rifle approval. That may be where ML technology draws the line. A cartridge loaded single shot is never going to be considered a primitive weapon because it's loaded with a complete cartridge. Should that be allowed in a ML season? If so, I could use my Ruger No. 1B in .30-06 to hunt deer during ML season. That rifle has many advantages over any ML, old school or inline, and just doesn't fit the primitive weapon idea. Archery tackle has always been advancing since the first archery season was offered, so the equipment kept getting more efficient and complicated. Buit the crossbow has people starting to question if that is something that should be allowed during archery season, because it detracts from the original idea of using a string and stick bow in a challenging way. A crossbow certainly makes it easier for a hunter to be successful in bow season, but is that what these challenging seasons are supposed to be doing? Making the challenge easier? If so, I expect harvest success rates will go up and the season lengths and doe permits will go down because the season will have a much stronger effect on herd control.

It seems to me if they were to allow single shot shotguns during ML season, there would be more people hunting that season and most of them would be using single shot shotguns. That would defeat the purpose of the primitive weapons idea that ML seasons were designed to encourage. A single shot shotgun can be reloaded very quickly, compared to a ML. That really negates the idea of hunting deer with a rifle that has to make the first shot count and requires special knowledge of an antique weapon to be successful. We already have modern ML rifles that have removed the mystique of ML use. I don't think it would be wise to remove the need to use a ML during a ML season.

1900 - St. Lawrence River Valley

The Legend of the King & The Fisherman The palace meteorologist assured him that there was no chance of rain, so the king and the queen went fishing. On the way, he met a man with a fishing pole riding on a donkey, and he asked the man if the fish were biting. The fisherman said, "Your Majesty, you should return to the palace. In just a short time I expect a huge rainstorm." The king replied: "I hold the palace meteorologist in high regard. He is an educated and experienced professional. Besides, I pay him very high wages. He gave me a very different forecast. I trust him." So, the king continued on his way. However, in a short time, torrential rain fell from the sky. The King and Queen were totally soaked. Furious, the king returned to the palace and gave the order to execute the meteorologist. Then he summoned the fisherman and offered him the prestigious position of royal forecaster. The fisherman said, "Your Majesty, I do not know anything about forecasting. I obtain my information from my donkey. If I see my donkey's ears drooping, it means with certainty that it will rain." So, the king hired the donkey. And so began the practice of hiring dumb asses to work in influential positions of government. And thus, the symbol of the Democrat Party was born. The practice continues to this day!

120 lb beaver in Wisconsin taken in 1994

Carbon County PA circa 1930's

1946 in California.

Oh I agree those politicians are as bad as Democrats, but I don't consider them Republicans. They're RINOs. They are just as corrupt as Democrats and feared Trump was going to expose their corruption. That's why they hated him. But the GOP party as a whole, and the platform they stand on, is a far better option than the leftist Democrats are pushing.

I think there is a huge difference between the two parties. I believe if nobody ever voted for any Democrat, most of today's issues would go away. Yes the GOP has issues, but I don't think they are as dangerous to the future of America as the Democrat's. At least they most often follow the rule of law and the US Constitution. I also believe GOP reps are far easier to expel from office because they don't rig elections.

If you vote for ANY Democrat, you're voting for your own demise. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dem-reps-seek-to-restrict-ammunition-sales-to-americans/ar-AA17OpFW?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=622245f35e7d491f8fcd54b31d6f1deb&fbclid=IwAR2FZaKpS7cSz0hs9WB9ZTOfMqOs6chZlmYCsrVSiNnUcwEhSxPpxCFgEhs

WHO REDEFINED OUR MILITARY AND WITH WHOSE CONSENT? We are beginning to wake up from a nightmare to a country we no longer recognize, and from a coup we never knew. By Victor Davis Hanson Did someone or something seize control of the United States? What happened to the U.S. border? Where did it go? Who erased it? Why and how did 5 million people enter our country illegally? Did Congress secretly repeal our immigration laws? Did Joe Biden issue an executive order allowing foreign nationals to walk across the border and reside in the United States as they pleased? Since when did money not have to be paid back? Who insisted that the more dollars the federal government printed, the more prosperity would follow? When did America embrace zero interest? Why do we believe $30 trillion in debt is no big deal? When did clean-burning, cheap, and abundant natural gas become the equivalent to dirty coal? How did prized natural gas that had granted America’s wishes of energy self-sufficiency, reduced pollution, and inexpensive electricity become almost overnight a pariah fuel whose extraction was a war against nature? Which lawmakers, which laws, and which votes of the people declared natural gas development and pipelines near criminal? Was it not against federal law to swarm the homes of Supreme Court justices, to picket and to intimidate their households in efforts to affect their rulings? How then with impunity did bullies surround the homes of Justices Brett Kavanaugh, Samuel Alito, Amy Coney Barrett, Neil Gorsuch, John Roberts, and Clarence Thomas—furious over a court decision on abortion? How could these mobs so easily throng our justices’ homes, with placards declaring “Off with their d—s”? Since when did Americans create a government Ministry of Truth? And on whose orders did the FBI contract private news organizations to censor stories it did not like and writers whom it feared? How did we wake up one morning to new customs of impeaching a president over a phone call? Of the speaker of the House tearing up the State of the Union address on national television? Of barring congressional members from serving on their assigned congressional committees? When did we assume the FBI had the right to subvert the campaign of a candidate it disliked? Was it legal suddenly for one presidential candidate to hire a foreign ex-spy to subvert the campaign of her rival? Was some state or federal law passed that allowed biological males to compete in female sports? Did Congress enact such a law? Did the Supreme Court guarantee that biological male students could shower in gym locker rooms with biological women? Were women ever asked to redefine the very sports they had championed? When did the government pass a law depriving Americans of their freedom during a pandemic? In America can health officials simply cancel rental contracts or declare loan payments in suspension? How could it become illegal for mom-and-pop stores to sell flowers or shoes during a quarantine but not so for Walmart or Target? Since when did the people decide that 70 percent of voters would not cast their ballots on Election Day? Was this revolutionary change the subject of a national debate, a heated congressional session, or the votes of dozens of state legislatures? What happened to Election Night returns? Did the fact that Americans created more electronic ballots and computerized tallies make it take so much longer to tabulate the votes? When did the nation abruptly decide that theft is not a crime, assault is not a felony? How can thieves walk out with bags of stolen goods, without the wrath of angry shoppers, much less fear of the law? Was there ever a national debate about the terrifying flight from Afghanistan? Who planned it and why? What happened to the once-trusted FBI? Why almost overnight did its directors decide to mislead Congress, to deceive judges with concocted tales from fake dossiers and with doctored writs? Did Congress pass a law that our federal leaders in the FBI or CIA could lie with impunity under oath? Who redefined our military and with whose consent? Who proclaimed that our chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff could call his Chinese Communist counterpart to warn him that America’s president was supposedly unstable? Was it always true that retired generals routinely libeled their commander-in-chief as a near Nazi, a Mussolini, an adherent of the tools of Auschwitz? Were Americans ever asked whether their universities could discriminate against their sons and daughters based on their race? How did it become physically dangerous to speak the truth on campus? Whose idea was it to reboot racial segregation and bias as “theme houses,” “safe spaces,” and “diversity”? How did that happen in America? How did a virus cancel the Constitution? Did the lockdowns rob us of our sanity? Or was it the woke hysteria that ignited our collective madness? We are beginning to wake up from a nightmare to a country we no longer recognize, and from a coup, we never knew.

Maine 1930

This man has the evidence to refute ALL of the anti-gun propaganda being spewed in the press and political arenas today. He's protecting our rights and is worth supporting. https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/content/why-the-gun-control-crowd-loathes-john-lott/

An open letter to customers from a retailer tells where things are heading in NY state.