Felonious_Monk

Hello back from Long Island

Columbine: Okay Carjacking: The invention of the word? Yes. The act for which the term was coined? Do you predate the invention of the automobile? Gang Violence: No People blowing up federal buildings: At home or abroad? Sure, he failed, but Guy Fawkes I'm pretty sure predates you by quite some time. This is nothing but the product of fear mongering over what someone could do with a firearm being hammered onto and into us for decades. Prohibition of alcohol saw the largest rise in organized crime in American history. Gangsta's of today have nothing on Gangsters of Capone, Lansky and Schultz's gangs. Gun control isn't about guns. It's about control. As for the question, I'd guess it has to do with trying to CONTROL who has access to pistol ammunition. Consider, it is unlawful for a felon to possess ammunition. However, there is no mechanism in place whatsoever to prevent him from walking into a store and purchasing ammunition, paying with cash, and having a virtually untraceable felony transaction. Right in a commercial retail establishment, not in some back alley buying rounds out of the trunk of Tony Pepperoni's Cadillac.

The tanks and other ancillaries are the only thing really keeping me from getting a good, quality PCP rifle. The good thing about air guns is the inexpensive trigger time, IMHO. Is it as fun as sending 7.62s down range? Of course not. But sending 200 "rounds" down range for $10 is a good deal. And hell, it's just plain fun. And helps me keep my eye sharp.

Muzzle velocity and pellet used, if you don't mind me asking?

It's been a while since they've sent me up that way, but I imagine they must be petty deep in the wooded areas by Brielle and Rockland, no? I don't know if that's a park, or state land or what, but it seems like a pretty likely spot. If you don't know where I mean, I think it's near the country club.

I think you may have lost a li'l meat on this one Elmo.

This same exact shit was on D.U. in 2008, claiming GWB wanted to remain in power forever. Plus c'est change, plus c'est le meme change.

Thanks for the quasi-endorsement. I'd be willing to bet we'd find lots of common ground, especially on social issues, or those of personal freedom. It's obvious we disagree on firearms, and I'm almost positive we're diametrically opposed on fiscal issues. But hey, I can't stop you from being wrong. As for your thread, if these executive directives get carried out to the fullest extent of the power the grant, your threads may be longer than you think. I hope you're right, and they have hundreds of views and no responses, but I for one am uncomfortable with a Constitutionally limited government that is gluttonous and mad with power.

Ants, that's not just the way you see it, it's the way it is. Like I said in my first post in this thread, do you think the BATFU would give you a pass because you forgot those pills were there? Or do you think they'd snatch up every firearm, round of ammunition and accccessory in your house under "civil forfeiture" rules, AND haul your ass away in bracelets for good measure? Remember "The law makes no exceptions." Nevermind that this isn't actually a law, but executive fiat. It will be treated as law, because the power hungry thugs at BATFU love their new found gifts, I don't know who everyone is, but I for one will not be voting for Willard. I'm not a Republocrat, but when I saw who the party elite were grooming for the position of heir to the dynasty, I thought to myself; "You guys aren't even trying. You deserve to lose."

Greybeard, I understand your point, I really do. Yes, we definitely do disagree though. I am utterly against civil forfeiture in any case where guilt has not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. Call it a Constitutional thing if you will. Civil forfeiture rules, as they stand in any case, grant all power to the government and place the burden of proof that the material seized is not illicit on the citizen. This is backwards and unAmerican in any fashion. The burden of proof is, and ALWAYS SHOULD BE on the accuser. In cases like these, the accuser(s) are the people, through their representatives in government and law enforcement. I cannot condone the theft of property by government without due process. The Constitution itself, as I posted earlier, enumerates this requirement. I'm sorry that you feel the way you do. I understand the concept of punishing criminals, but no one is adjudicated a criminal unless they either plead guilty to a charge of their own volition, or are found guilty by a jury of their peers. Anything else is a circumvention of the limitations placed on government power by our founding charter. Let's propose a hypothetical. You have a root canal done, and your oral surgeon writes you a prescription for 10 vicodin, 2 a day for 5 days. That should be more than enough for you to get to a point where the pain is no longer so great you need any such drugs to cope. You stop taking the pills after 3 days, and still have 2 days worth, or 4 pills left. You don't need them anymore, so they get shuffled to the back of your medicine cabinet where they are promptly forgotten. A year goes by, and those pills are still there. You now possess a controlled substance without a valid prescription, a federal felony. You are by definition a "controlled substance offender." Would you be perfectly fine with the BATFU coming and confiscating your arms over that? Essentially, that's what this executive directive does. It gives the BATFU power over everyone, not just hardened criminals who are out on the street selling methamphetamine to kindergartners. Now, I know you'd never keep those pills after their expiration date. Heck, you're probably man enough where you'd not only not fill the prescription, but you'd eat nails and spit thumbtacks just to prove it. Remember though, this was purely a hypothetical situation. Sort of like in California, where medical marijuana users are placed in the NICS "deny" column. Even though our current Executive said he would not pursue legal action against citizens in states where medical marijuana is legal. Would you like mustard, mayo, or ketchup on your poop sandwich?

What exactly even feigns to represent Due Process in this abomination of an executive Directive? It can't even be called a law, since it wasn't voted on by your representatives in the congress. This is executive fiat, depriving citizens of liberty and property without just cause. How can anyone support these policies? For the "Hurr Durr this is for drug dealers" crowd, it says "controlled substance violations". That includes any medications your Dr. May have prescribed you. So come down off your high horse. This DOES affect you. This is a threat to you. But instead you'd rather believe "That can't happen in MY AMERICA.", meanwhile it's going on all around you. Slightly out of context, but still in and on topic, just what do you think Fast N Furious was about?

The technology is emerging where people will soon be able to literally print a firearm at home from their desktop, with appropriate equipment. The company's name is Defense Distributed. Their idea is to create a cad file which will be freely distributable across the internet. They are using professional grade 3D printing equipment, with the intent to backport it to hobbyist type 3D printers like the reprap. Information is free, and rightly so.

Well, it involves controlled substance abuses. So obviously this could only refer to drug dealing criminals and crackheads, right? Certainly the BATFU would grant you a pass because you forgot about that vicodin prescription in your medicine cabinet from after your root canal that's expired now. Nah, they'd never use that as a pretext for civil forfeiture.

4.7kV + Accessible by anyone with a ladder = STUPID. Better shut the power off before someone gets hurt.

How is it not an assault on freedom? I work for my money. It is mine to do with as I wish, so long as those uses do not bring harm to others. If I CHOOSE to buy and consume a 406 liter bottle of Jolt Cola, how is it government's job to tell me I can't do it? My body. My money. MY SODA.

Like I said, the indignation is because of WHAT the property was. What the property was is immaterial. It could have been money, an iPod, or a book of matches. The guy left a piece of his property inside another piece of his own personal property. The fact it was a gun is not even relevant. What is relevant is that someone stole it. Is leaving a loaded firearm unprotected in your car irresponsible? I imagine that argument could be made, but it is a secondary argument to the fact that personal property was stolen. This isn't that difficult.

Wow. Okay, thanks for the scouting reports guys. I'd love to get one up here, because 650 miles is a haul and once a year just ain't enough.

I own some land down south, and the family and I usually head down there once a year to do some camping, and do some shooting/hunting. Ferals are unprotected down there as well, and you can take them at any time, in any number, with any implement of your choosing. I've been trying to follow their expansion into NY as well, especially as NY has similar rules, requiring only a small game license, and the following of other regs as per the DEC. In NC, I have the advantage of the only regs being common sense, since it's my own property. The question, after my long winded intro, is if anyone on the board partakes in Hog Hunting here in NY. If so, where have you seen them/taken them/heard of their activity? DEC has them as active in Onandaga, Cortland, Tioga, and I think now Broome counties. This is quite a bit closer to home, and I'd love to have a third the travel for the hunt. Of course, like I said, we usually head down and camp as a family, but if I could get some wild bacon 4 hours, instead of 15 hours away, it'd be great. So, anyone have any info they'd like to pass along, or success stories to share? Thanks in Advance, F_Monk

Beautiful bird. I'm amazed by skilled falconry hunters.

@WNYBuckHunter.. exactly. No one's saying the man wasn't at least somewhat irresponsible. The fact remains, there was only one crime committed. That crime was the THEFT of a man's property, fom inside another piece of his property, while it was parked on his real property. The fact that it was a firearm is immaterial. It could just as easily have been a piece of bazooka gum. That's like blaming me for when my car stereo was stolen from my driveway, because I left it in my car. Somehow though, because it was a firearm, it's partially the victim's fault simply because of what the property was? That makes no sense. Prosecute the criminal, not persecute the victim.

Why does he need an excuse? It's his pistol, in his car, in his driveway. If he left money on the seat, and it was stolen, I bet a lot of the reactions in here would be different. Since it's a gun though, we have self-righteous indignation? What does it matter what he left in his car? It's his property and it was stolen. The only person in the wrong here is the thief.

Thanks Ants. Some folks just seem to be a few sandwiches short of a picnic. Racism is wrong. Homophobia (not my word, I think someone can disagree or find homosexuality distasteful without being homophobic. But I mean legitimate hate of people for simply being homosexual) is wrong. For some reason though, hating religion, especially Christianity, seems to be perfectly acceptable. It's horsepuckey. Like I said, I don't believe, but I'm not gonna start screaming about how religion is pure evil. Don't preach or try to convert me, and I won't denigrate your faith. Plain as that. Instead let's talk about.....hey, see that buck?

Raised Catholic, turned agnostic here. Stereotyping any of an entire group, based on the actions of a small minority is wrong. I simply don't understand the rabid hatred for religion some people harbor. Religion is not for me. Then again, neither are Salami and peanut butter sandwiches. What do I do about it? Avoid both. Crikey, in the last month here on Long Island we have had a custodian and a math teacher arrested on possession of child pornography charges. The math teacher's collection was evidently so large it took up an entire evidence van and the back seat of a car. Does this mean that, simply via association, every single employee of the public school system is a kiddie porn lover? Of course it doesn't. Should people begin a rabid, hate-filled, foaming-at-the-mouth campaign against teachers? The very idea is ridiculous. So, why the double standard? Don't like religion? Don't practice it. That's a pretty simple solution. Spouting off vitriolic nonsense and screaming that the Catholic Church is an evil organization based on the actions of a few of its members or officials makes you look worse than it does them. You come off as an arrogant, irrational, miscreant with an axe to grind. Hey, OP, how big's your kiddie porn collection? I mean obviously if as others have mentioned, you are a former teacher, and we know public school employees have collected kiddie porn, then you too must also collect kiddie porn, right? So, how big's your collection?

Indeed. As I said I only resurrected it in case the OP had never found an answer. The link I posted is to the online guide to the DEC's 2012 - 2013 hunting regulations FAQ. EDITED TO ADD: If the DEC felt the need to add that question to their FAQ, it would seem that it is a common enough question. NYS Penal Code 265 (pertaining to weapons and weapons violations) and 6 NYCRR 180.3 (pertaining to hunting with air rifles) seem almost to conflict with one another in their language. A convicted felon whom is looking to abide by the law would be justified in doing his due diligence to find out if he is legally allowed to hunt with an airgun, since by purpose of legislative language they magically transform into a firearm the instant they are carried afield.

gracias