Four Season Whitetail's

I know, I should really update but i believe i am going to revamp the whole site. Trust me that anybody that has anything to do with whitetails from here to Texas knows about this site. Company? Nah..Just a hobby that throws a few extra 00000's in the ckecking account every year! Dont drool on yourself to much!

why of course they were. With no proof what so ever. Like every other case. So tell me, You see no problem with the release of the CWD positive herd being released into a public forest to infect any deer or elk for miles around?

With whitetails or non Ny game animals the owner has 48 hours to locate and get the animal back. After that its open season for anyone to harvest. How about the deer fence cut a couple years ago and 7 bucks with 3 or 200inches released. The owner got 4 back the next day with 2 of them the 200's and the other 3 were taken during the hunting season. The last 200 inch buck was taken by a gun hunter chasing does 6 miles from the farm. The guy that cut the fence was caught and charged. I believe these guys that shot the buffalo are good to go with no further issues!

How about another state telling livestock owning landowners that they dont have to follow the same rules they make for others? Nah this is not double standards and CWD is not/was not used as a tool to rid the landscape of the biggest threat to the states DEC/DNR's cash. More lawsuits in the works im sure! North American Elk Breeders Association Opposes Wild Elk Importation into West Virginia Notes Double Standards Practiced by West Virginia DNR HOWARD LAKE, MN- The North American Elk Breeders Association is denouncing the West Virginia Division of Natural Resources’ elk relocation project bringing wild elk into West Virginia. The North American Elk Breeders Association (NAEBA), which represents elk ranchers across the United States and Canada, said state wild elk restoration projects do not meet United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) animal health requirements and will put the state at risk. The United States Department of Agriculture has a comprehensive Chronic Wasting Disease program for the movement of farmed elk and deer. To control and prevent the spread of Chronic Wasting Disease, the USDA program, by federal and state law, states that farmed elk and deer must be monitored for CWD for at least five years in order to be approved for interstate transit. There is no approved live test to bypass monitoring requirements. NAEBA Executive Director Travis Lowe said the department is ignoring protocol and the project will put the wild deer and farmed elk and deer at risk. “We have seen DNR agencies in several states completely disregard the federal and state CWD programs in order to bring wild elk into their states. This is a very reckless move on their part in order to fill their long term goal to create a system of selling public elk hunts.” The West Virginia Division of Natural Resources recently held a public meeting in Logan County to gauge the public support. Agency officials were quoted in local media saying there was strong support. Lowe continued, “Restoring wild elk herds sounds great to the public, but it defies logic to see a state agency enforce strict rules on private elk and deer farmers and at the exact same time they will ask to bring in wild elk that are untested and unmonitored. “ This is not the first time NAEBA has opposed state wildlife elk relocation projects. Recently, the Missouri Department of Conservation imported wild elk that were not held to the same Chronic Wasting Disease certification standards required of cervid farmers. Two years later the Missouri Department of Conservation approved new rules to close the state borders to interstate commerce of whitetail deer to “protect the state’s deer population from CWD.” Meanwhile their elk relocation program continues. “This is just total hypocrisy,” said Lowe. “The DNR agencies are the biggest game breeders in the state. They are just exempt from all the rules

Just what i thought...No knowledgeable answer because there is none and fact is fact! How about i show you what states think about CWD as a problem.. Talk about double standards! February 25, 2013 5:30 am • Kevin Woster Journal staff (1) Comments A relocation plan aimed at reducing the elk herd in Wind Cave National Park and building elk numbers nearby has some critics worried about the spread of chronic wasting disease. Wildlife officials at Wind Cave and adjoining Custer State Park are cooperating on a plan to use helicopters in early March to push hundreds of elk out of Wind Cave, where they have outgrown available habitat. The plan is to reduce the number of elk in Wind Cave and bolster the elk population in the adjoining national forest and Custer State Park, where the elk herd has dropped. It is considered a win-win plan by those involved, but it worries critics who include former state Game, Fish & Parks Department wildlife specialist John Wrede of Rapid City. And chronic wasting disease is at the heart of that worry. Wind Cave has been in a troubled area for the fatal brain disorder affecting elk and deer since a CWD-infected captive elk herd on private land adjoining the park had to be destroyed in the 1990s. CWD apparently spread from that captive herd into wild elk in the park, causing a problem there that, based on limited data, appears to produce higher rates of infection in elk than elsewhere in the Black Hills. "When considering just elk, the prevalence rate in and immediately around Wind Cave is far greater than anyplace else in South Dakota," Wrede said. "In fact, you could put Wind Cave directly in the center of what could easily be referred to as an endemic area, where managers and epidemiologists should be trying to figure out how to keep the area from growing larger." Forcing hundreds of elk out of the park seems to work against such containment, Wrede said. Wind Cave wildlife officials argue that a drive is unlikely to cause a significant increase in CWD elsewhere in the Black Hills. They also point out that the elk herd in Wind Cave is thriving in spite of CWD, to the point where the reduction plan was needed. And the higher rates of CWD in the park's elk herd should be kept in perspective, said park biological science technician Duane Weber and natural resource manager Greg Schroeder. They admit that the numbers of infected elk appear startling, based on limited survey results. Out of 140 elk tested in the park since 1998, 45 have tested CWD positive. But there's a catch. Those were not random tests. They were tests on elk that were either dead or sick, unlike the more random testing done elsewhere in the Black Hills by GF&P, primarily from elk shot by hunters. Those test results, based on 15 years of sampling, indicate a CWD infection rate throughout the Hills in deer and elk of slightly less than 1 percent. But comparing the two types of tests isn't fair, Weber said. "The animals we test are either sick and we suspect chronic wasting and we shoot them, or they've already died and we test them," Weber said. "So it's way higher. Comparing our tests to the state's results is apples and elephants." It's difficult to know what a more random testing system would show, since Wind Cave doesn't allow hunting within park boundaries. "In a nutshell, we don't have a very good handle on what our prevalence is, whether it's higher or lower overall," Weber said. The closest study Wind Cave has to the more random state surveys was a 3-year mortality study based on elk fitted with tracking collars. It indicated that 3 percent of the collared elk that died were CWD infected. For perspective, that was the same rate as those determined to have been killed by mountain lions in the park. Hunter mortality on those collared elk was 6 to 7 percent, on animals that migrated outside the park during the hunting season, Weber said. Weber and Schroeder said it should also be noted that Wind Cave elk have been moving in and out of the park for years. Portions of the herd have moved over low spots in fences to reach federal or private forest for calving season, Weber said. Recent upgrades give Wind Cave officials more control over when and where elk leave and return to the park. Wrede is pretty sure the Wind Cave rates are higher, regardless of variations in testing protocol. The CWD problem in the Black Hills pretty clearly began with the captive elk herd near Wind Cave and spread into the wild elk in the park and then beyond, he said. "There may be a better than fair probability that, at least in the case of elk, animals historically testing positive for CWD had origins in Wind Cave National Park," Wrede said. The issue isn't lost on John Kanta, GF&P regional wildlife manager in Rapid City. He noted that elk have migrated in and out of Wind Cave for years but also said the helicopter drive will get into parts of the population that tended not to leave the park. And now they will. "We're certainly going to be pushing some animals into areas where they haven't been before, from a place where there has been a higher prevalence of the disease," Kanta said."That's certainly a concern that we've discussed among the staff." Even so, Kanta doubts the CWD impacts outside the park will be dramatic. And he said the upside of redistributing elk will benefit Wind Cave wildlife and habitat management and hunters and wildlife watchers outside the park. Building the herd in Custer State Park, where limited elk hunting is typically allowed, and on U.S. Forest Service land nearby will benefit elk hunters and elk watchers, Kanta said. Weber said the positive side of the plan is big. "We don't know exactly what's going to happen when these elk go out," he said. "But we think the benefit of this project far outweigh any detriments we might see.

Again..My Point>>>They have been here how many freakin years? They will multiply how fast? Everything they claim that CAN<COULD<WOULD happen the pigs themselves have PROVEN them wrong. Kinda like they are trying to use a little thing called CWD which has proven all science and every person that tries to use it for their agenda, sound like a dipstick. Years and time are all the proof ya need and both have had plenty enough to prove that neither are a problem. Period!

I really hope your not trying to dis-credit the few on here that have all the answers?. Nah, I know you would not think of it. Great Info!

Yes my point...If they were thought to be vermin they would be killed on sight by any means at any time. Gee it says right there that they are though of as..Private property and you need to ask to hunt!!!!!

Yes i see the true story..Lmao The state is already making money off of them....Huh Funny how they got there. Interesting! New Hampshire How To Hunt Wild Boar In New Hampshire Corbin Park, a 26,000 acre private hunting reserve Resident License: $22 for an annual New Hampshire Hunting License, Non-Resident License: $ 103 for an annual New Hampshire Hunting License, $73 for an annual Non-resident New Hampshire archery hunting license. Resident Tag Fee: No tag required Non-Resident Tag Fee: No Tag Required Limit: No Limit Season: Unregulated Legal Method of Take: Any legal firearm or bow Dogs: Yes Night Time Hunting: No Baiting: Yes, please visit New Hampshire Baiting Laws Page for more information Summary: There is definitely a huntable population of true blood wild boar in New Hampshire. Wild Boar can be found Grafton, Cheshire, and Sullivan Counties. Hunting wild boar in New Hampshire is a little bizarre, with hazy rules. For instance, wild boar are considered escaped private property running at large. It is assumed that the wild boar belong to a private hunting association called Blue Mountain Forest Association. This group restricts its members to just 30, and only accepts new members when they die or they leave the association. The fenced in preserve is over 20,000 acres in size with a 12 foot high fence that travels 36 miles. The preserve was created by Austin Corbin, a bank baron, in the 1800′s. He wanted to create a preserve where all the animals could live harmoniously. In 1930, the best breeds of Russian and German wild boar were introduced to the park, known by the locals as Corbin’s Park. In 1938, a hurricane came through and blew the fence down. A large amount of pure blood wild boar escaped the fence and have taken residence outside the preserve. In 1949, the “Boar Damage Law” was passed, making owners (there was only one owner) responsible for damage to farmland and property caused by wild boar. Wild boar are considered to be the sole property of Blue Mountain Forest Association, according to the law. So, on the flip side hunters are not allowed to hunt wild boar unless you ask for permission from the preserve. You have to call to ask permission, but the association will most likely give permission to hunt them, as they don’t want to be liable for the damage caused outside their enclosure. Blue Mountain’s number is in the resources section at the bottom.

Good post to prove my point..Are they tearing up NH..I think not....Did they breed numbers like in the south..I think not... Hunters kept them under control you say? So is there a season or is there a bounty? Is it a state mandated kill on sight? Point being..they have been around for years and have not grown in numbers like some of the pig( and now Wolf..LMFAO) experts we have on this site.. Some of you should make money with all this knowledge you have stored up!

Sucks when you are on the other end of the poker huh? Hope you enjoy like a few already have for years. You think shit dont roll both ways but i guess you are just the hypocrite that does not care as long as it does not have anything to do with you.. Well that dont have anything to do with me so ..no big deal..Right?

yeah right...They like to jump right on themselves..They stir more than most on here. But again.you have to look at the big picture!

Yeah i agree and i made a post and then a couple assholes on here started throwing posts and you were not one of them until the end. I made a post that if antler did that around here he would have his ass handed to him or his house burnt down.He thinks not but i would bank on it!. You take some of these guys hunting away and he would be wishing he was only playing with crackheads! Go back and reread the post and see who took the first shot!! I wont back down from any fool on here..and from a hunting standpoint..Ya i guess!

Yeah thats it...Read some more into my post....now that shows it all..

You really are a fool...I dont claim taxes and i run a meth house....You really have to step up your game if you want to play here. You will never see a pm. Just as you will never have the balls to take the invite! Google is your friend...Many big bucks killed in area 3n!

I guess this shows how clueless you really are. I guess you just took it that you were one of those 3 or 4 huh. Just an fyi..Have never killed a whitetail behind fence. Really..Sit and rotate? Good One!

Why did anyone on here say that? I believe not. You call the law on something that has nothing to do with you or any of you business..then you earn that name..The ones on here that have done it...Not Shocked... Look at the source?

Nice but around here those walk to grow up. Looks to me as though there have been many good bucks taken in that area. I find it funny that you few 3 or 4 on here that spew off on here and give tips and pointers about killing big deer when you have never even killed one yourself and then dis the few that have killed a wall full. That proves one thing. Thats funny right there!!!

Yeah this comes from the mouth of a true hunter...I guess biz may not be alone in his quest for a 100in buck.. What a joke you few that talk deer and cant kill mature deer.We all hunt our deer but some of us know what we speak of because we have actually killed a few real deer. You couple that spew crap and have no backup are the true jokes!

No the bad hunter would be someone like you that comes on a hunting site talking hunting when all he has to show for the year is a 100lbs yearling that any first timer in the woods could kill!! Right jjb?

Yeah and showed your stupid ass that i had the law behind me to show that i can shoot them whenever i want so that just shows your little schoolboy acts backfired on ya.

I guess you have a hard time reading posts huh...Looks like my boy Biz drew first blood again. I can play his game as long as he likes and you sure dont have to hit the button to read it!

I have problems with rats like you that think they know what other people can and cant do and then try and run to the law for backup. Yes serious problems. Like i said..Take a weekend away from the city and come hunt the country for a day. Be sure to put you on a 100 inch buck!

Dead is dead. Regardless of grain size.

Funny because reading your posts it points to a daddys boy that has had everything in life giving to him on a silver platter. Hence the 1 bedroom appt. You show that you will never come close to earning half of what i have. Like i said..any time you want to come north and hunt just come on up..Will be sure to show you a good time! Really fit in with half the assclown 4 weekends a year deer hunters that think they know hunting that talk smack...I left you fools years ago....As is shown in the i cant kill a 100 inch buck. Thats funny right there!!!!