nybuckboy

I'm considering sending this letter to my area newspaper to the editor. This is the first draft but would like thoughts. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ With the new gun laws in NY state I'm sure everyone is feeling much safer now. Sorry for the sarcasm. Not too long ago I read where several hundred people showed up to support the dog who was left to starve to death yet the next week only a handful of people show up to support a meeting to help make our streets safer. I'm all for dogs treated humanely, heck I love animals and have had both dogs and cats my whole life. What every fails to really see about safety on our streets and the streets of America, is where does the gun violence come from. One word - "Hollywood". Senseless gun violence was not the normal 50 years ago. We had good wholesome movies and TV programs with often times a moral story. Not today! Just watch the previews for the movies coming out every week or the TV programs. I bet the vast majority of movies today are movies with gun violence. It's either senseless sitcoms with laugh tracks or shows with a lot of killing. Hollywood is the movie industry and television, the real root of the violence. We as a society have become desensitized to killing. Until we as decent human beings decide to not support this violence no amount of gun law changes will do a thing. More gun laws will do nothing to curb the gun violence. Remember, take the guns away from the good people and only the criminals will have guns. Stop supporting Hollywood.

Good article on deer vision http://www.outdoorhub.com/stories/whitetail-vision-shedding-light-deer-eyesight/

Congrats on your sons first deer

Up near Camden NY the DPW crew drops off all the road kills on a seasonal road that is plowed a ways an the eagle population feed on them all year round. They had like 20 eagles up there at one time, coyotes too and you should see the eagles chase off the coyotes.

Wool pants a must, layers and insulated 1000 gram boots loose fit with a good wool sock and polypropylene under sock. One other thing I found makes a huge difference, especially with wind... put your rain gear on over everything. If you are sitting on stand or in a tree stand the rain gear encapsulates you and is a windbreak. If you plan to do a lot of walking NO. Oh and 1 other thing, a muff with a heat pack and just wool army gloves is all I wear for the hands.

I believe early season you can pattern them going from bedding to feed and back again but as the gun season goes into full swing it will be very difficult. Then again late season you may be able to start patterning once again.

It seem that deer will always do what you don't plan or calculate they will do. The Elusive Whitetail Deer. Tonight I sat in the old apple orchard. The wind was out of the N/NW and perfect for the orchard. I have not sat there once this season, not even bow. Saw nothing from 3 til dark. Came out and walked along the cut corn edge and there were the same 4 doe I see each time. They came out with the wind. They went back in when they saw me so I began to walk back to the 4 wheeler. This small 7 acre scrub patch always holds deer and sure enough there were 2 on the south side of the patch. They too came out with the wind. I stood there glassing them and several more came out. In all it looked like 8 total and one was chasing after a couple. I could see a decent beam on the buck but had no idea really what it was and by now it was way safe shooting let alone legal sunset.

140 for sure

And about an hour south in St Marys PA you have about 1000 Elk free ranging about a 25 sq mile area just south of St Marys in Benezette.

excellent story

I came across a rather good video for field dressing a doe. Other than then the knife drawing toward him the guy did an excellent job. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6gaKai8WF0

Did you have a lock and big chain on them? Also in the future if you didn't inscribe your name and phone number on them. This too, helps!

Well it's gettin to be that time. My son and I been hunting for big horns all season )ow and gun) and have really not seen any. Oh, we've seen our share of bucks, probably a dozen different between us since bow season. Their really has not been much pressure from hunters around here so we plan to let the small bucks grow another year. We been seeng lots of doe but no buck with them, so from here on out the plan is to take a doe each to the fill the 2 DMP's and if the opportunity presents itself for a big horn obviously I'll take it but will wait til ML to fill the other Doe tag... unless Mr Big Horn does show up. Getting less fussy and really hungry for some fresh venison.

Saw 3 doe and I believe a button buck tagging along this moring. Then at noon coming out of the woods into a field I saw a decent buck running hard trying to turn the doe, more than just following or dogging but running hard, both of them. Then tonight at sunset 9 doe and not one buck with them.

I don't know about your area of the state but here in southern Oneida county it seems to be our first estrous happened around the middle of November. I say this because I saw bucks chasing in the early part of the month. On the 8th still in bow season, heard and saw a big buck tending a doe followed by 4 other bucks. On the 16th I heard and saw a buck tending a doe and another buck following a few minutes behind. Since then I have seen 12 doe and no bucks with them at all so I presume the big bucks are locked down with other does. So expect the 2nd estrous to be around the time of muzzle loader. Does anyone else see it this way?

Yep... got up at 5:45 and just listened to the freakin wind howling on the hill here and said there are a few things I could be doing to help the wife out with the dinner plans. I bet it has been 40 years since I missed a TG morning hunt. I'll be out Friday morning though for sure.

Love the story... I did get out Saturday morning til 9am but had to give in to installing a hardwood floor all weekend and actually felt that this windy snowy cold weekend was a good call but you showed me that "on any given day"... I say he goes 135 and he may score as high as 140. My guess is 139 gross. Let us know when you do get it scored. Oh and I guess you showed everyone the .243 is plenty gun huh!!

Oh this is some funny Sh*t LMAO I remember an old timer at the camp I used to go to would never leave the camp in the morning until he took his morning crap. He had an expression. He said "I never leave camp in the morning until the boss says so"

I am in awe of the strength that a big buck has. A human could never lift that other buck out of the water like that nor hang on that long after many attempts. Amazing, amazing, amazing!!!

Yeah but pee and poop are very different. All urine turns to ammonia. Human sh*t doesn't smell like anything else in the woods.

My question is how long will this contaminate the woods? It is right off a main run across the hardwoods. Although before I saw the toilet paper, a doe followed by 2 bucks came right down the trail.

Yep... the only piece of hardwoods on the entire property and a hunter with permission thinks it's OK to drop a deuce right in the middle of where he hunts. Toilet paper and turned up leaves was a dead giveaway. Would you? I know I wouldn't. I'd go somewhere, anywhere but where I was doing my hunting. Go back to the car, it's not that far and go to a convenience store.

As a hunter we have a job... the job is to kill our quarry with the most ethical shot we can... to let this quarry die quickly and humanely. Anything else is just a botch job.

real nice NY buck. Love the split G2

Yep...Gonna hunt Wednesday afternoon. Plan to be in the stand by 1:30 Got a NW wind in the forecast.