We were outside the harbor right on the wall that they're building those steel gazebos on. We were gone by 9 though. My motor wasn't "peeing" so I didn't want to run it and burn it up. we used the electric and couldn't go far. I started the motor before I pulled out and it "peed" so there must have been a little blockage that cleared. You're right about Erie what a fantastic fishery, the river too