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Think it is the leeward side of a hill (east side with a west wind, n side with a south wind, etc), until it gets real cold, then probably the s side. This way they can smell anything approaching behind them and watch everything below them.

The nastier the weather, the better the day to still hunt, in my opinion. Strong wind, white out snow, driving rain, etc would make the best conditions.

Great discussion thread, I'm not very good at it myself. did take a buck this yr still hunting when really windy/snowy last sat. He was bedded on the leeward slope of a ditch (wind coming over his back and him facing downwind) and I approached from cross wind on the opposite side. This seems to be the best approach to me, walk cross wind in a fairly open woods, hillside expecting them on the top 1/3 elevation, especially points. wind to their back, facing downwind. He was bedded with a doe and long story short, she saw me he didn't. I really was blessed cause I didn't deserve it, after I got busted, he came back into the ditch cause he really didn't know what the doe was upset about, and his instincts wouldn't let him cross the open field with her or cross the road. I would like to know how others do it in thick brush. I can only see still hunting the edge of open woods where you reasonably could get a shot off. Seems impossible to sneak up on them in heavy cover and be able to shoot before you get busted.

Do all 3 get a ton of pressure? 1 get less than the others? Is it hard to get away from other hunters?

Which would you choose, which gets the least pressure and how heavily are they hunted? Thanks

Truth, I've got your 8g, Duck you've got my 8h, and truth has your 8f. sending you pm's

I have an 8g or 8a and need an 8h please

I'm not saying the medical examiner lied, but he didn't do himself any favors in answering the questions. Watch the video. He didn't exactly convince me he believed anything he was saying in his body language, use of language, and eye contact. It was a simple question, not a convincing answer.

So can you still buy a tube fed .22 in NY? Can you buy one out of state and bring it here?

I wanted to sign, and still might, just don't like the part of encouraging our federal government to spend their energy on mental health and enforcing existing gun laws. Frankly, as their desired restrictions and policies are not the answer to gun violence, neither are their efforts into solving mental health or any other issue. We don't want them looking into and regulating/restricting/testing/monitoring/tracking anything or any more than they are. Don't need them to leave guns alone only to stick their noses into every other area of peoples lives.

Cleaning isn't bad if you stand the gun in the corner, loosen the breach plug, squirt some FOAMING mz cleaner down the barrel and leave it sit for an hr so it soaks down the barrel and cleans the breach plug. From there it's pretty simple and takes no time. Just put a rag under the breach end or you'll stain your floor!

What's the rule to this. Can you bring an unlicensed friend with you (not to push deer or carry a gun) without getting harassed or breaking the law? Had a friend hassled by DEC for bringing his son.

Tuesday saw a big mature buck backing down a 1.5. At 10 am literally 20 yds off 390 a little n of the thruway. Thats sign of something. Yesterday saw a 120" 2.5 make a scrape 40 yds off of 90, right in buffalo, at 1:30 pm. This am saw 2 big bucks out in Buffalo. Went out scouting tonight and still seeing the same doe family group out together and not being really disturbed. Haven't seen a lot of action where I hunt yet.

Seems like there are a lot of trails in the park. Do you run into a lot of hikers or bikers on the trails?

How crowded is it at Letchworth during bow season? Do you guys run into lots of other hunters, if so what are good areas to avoid? Or where do most guys seem to go into the park?

But just to be sure, Truth, you better tell me exactly where you've been getting pics of him so I can verify

Think truth's buck is every bit of this one, minus the brows.

Very nice, do you have a flash extender on that?

Excellent!!! How were low light pics?

I think its long enough, just not late enough.... and regular gun runs too long and runs right into mz. The last 2 weeks of gun hunting around me is always terrible. They are pressured so hard, nothing moves --right through mz they are still not budging. Even most of the fawns are always nocturnal for most of mz because of the reg season. I talked to a guy in OH the other day, and their bow season runs till Feb 5 this yr. THAT would be a true late season and one worth hunting after the pressure dies down. Didn't even buy my mz license this yr.

1. Pressure : gun season shuts them down; relative to the pressure 2. Rut: Late bow they go into lockdown and don't move a lot for a week or so 3. Food: Is the food all harvested neighboring your 29 acres? Then they probably have moved on. 4. Cover: there is less of it now and I personally think when you combine that with the added pressure the deer are more apt to travel areas in heavier cover as we are not hunting the 'same' land anymore. the landscape changes pretty dramatically between mid Oct and Dec.

I didn't mean set up and shoot in the safety area. just thought if guys walked around inside it, the deer wouldn't stay. But I haven't hunted there and you guys have more experience with the area and there must be a reason why it doesn't work that way. Maybe like you say, its not really possible to set up on them where it's legal.

thats tough to hear about the lack of success here, cause I live just 10 mi from the n entrance and was thinking of giving it a go (with the bow this yr since I didn't apply for shotgun).

I have never hunted anywhere with anything close to 100 deer sq/mi. If they are really that thick in the safety zones, don't people push these to get them out?

Very nice! Praise the Lord! Did he really come in downwind of you?