New Tactic By The Government To Stop Gun Sales

[Mr VJP]

This administration is trying every underhanded, unconstitutional way of killing gun ownership they can think of. This stuff is truly right out of Saul Alinsky's book, "Rules for Radicals".

http://www.gunnews.com/operation-choke-point/

Cut off all the money to gun makers and sellers and put them out of business.

This is happening as I write this.

[sits in trees]

Im not really sure anyone is cutting off money to gun makers. They have enjoyed record profits for close to a decade now and many small start ups in the industry which started only a few years ago have grown into very large companies employing tens of thousands in America.

It is true however that large profitable illegal businesses like garbage carting, gambling, drugs in America have been taken over by huge corporate interest's with the help of the very government that they helped get elected thru campaign contributions.

You have to understand its not the government, the government is what is offered up by the people who really pull the strings in this country, where do you think your choices are coming from when you enter that voting both?

[EspressoBuzz]

Im not really sure anyone is cutting off money to gun makers. They have enjoyed record profits for close to a decade now and many small start ups in the industry which started only a few years ago have grown into very large companies employing tens of thousands in America.

It is true however that large profitable illegal businesses like garbage carting, gambling, drugs in America have been taken over by huge corporate interest's with the help of the very government that they helped get elected thru campaign contributions.

You have to understand its not the government, the government is what is offered up by the people who really pull the strings in this country, where do you think your choices are coming from when you enter that voting both?

 

careful he might make fun of your avatar

[Mr VJP]

Oh, make no mistake, it is happening.  Between the administration and the FDIC, many gun sellers and manufacturers have already gotten letters from their banks saying they can not do business any longer.

 

I'm not talking about profits here.  I'm talking about cash flow, credit and a bank account your buyers can send payments to.  Without those, profits are hard to make.  Few large companies like Ruger have to worry, as they can afford good legal representation.  But your local FFL gun shop or his distributor are not so well heeled.  I know 2 this has already happened to.

 

Just google the info.  There's lot's of info on it out there already.

[Mr VJP]

I also posted this on 5/19/14, but nobody replied to it.  Guess nobody understood it.

 

This is how a tyrannical administration harasses firearm businesses, so they will just give up.

 

http://www.washingto...-feds/?page=all

[Mr VJP]

More info on it.....

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/federal-legislation/2014/5/update-on-operation-choke-point-evidence-mounts-of-government-policy.aspx

[Mr VJP]

No gun owners in NY care, or can understand the tyranny here. No surprise to me.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/29/operation-choke-point-deliberately-targets-busines/

[Mr VJP]

The NSSF is getting into the reports of the administration using its influence banks in their lending and business banking practices. It's known as "Operation Choke Point" and the lead story in today's news features the NSSF's statement on the whole deal.

We have heard -from banking sources- that there have, indeed, been administration attempts to push banks away from gun-related companies. According to our sources, the attempts have ranged from "very subtle" to "strong-arm threats". At this point, none of the banks involved are willing to go public with their comments, but the industry should -once again- be prepared to go to war with an administration that appears to believe that force of law isn't much force at all when it disagrees with their ideological positions.

If you're a gun owner, you need to be aware that regardless of your political leanings, a gun makes you a threat- and consequently, an enemy - to this administration. You might not like that flat statement, but you'd have a hard time disproving it.

http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/story/1401397186wnxj711pkqr

[bubba]

Glad I got a new tin foil hat.  See no one responds other than to poke fun, because neither of you have any credibility left. We just ignore the rants of fools.

Edited May 30, 2014 by bubba

[Five Seasons]

*Posting from my bunker

[steve863]

 

 

They are done with Randle, which one of you fellas is next??

 

 

 

[Mr VJP]

The replies from bubba, steve863, belo, and the like, are precisely the reason they are not worthy of support in NY from true 2nd Amendment advocates.

 

This thread was posted to show indisputable proof of an assault on gun rights via the back door by the government, and one would think gun owners would be shocked to hear it.

 

So how do they respond.  They don't read the info, refuse to investigate the facts, then mock the message and the messengers and continue to keep their heads in their rectums.  And yet they think they are fighting for gun rights and expect to win this fight in NY.

 

Sadly, they have no idea how well organized the opposition is, how many fronts they are advancing on, or how much money they have to throw at the cause.  Yet those of us who do know are the ones who lack credibility?

 

Because of all this, these guys have no chance, are going to go down, and it's gonna be a blood bath.

 

Remember, all you guys with short or selective memories, I warned you again, and you just laughed.

 

And steve863, if you ever read "One flew over the cuckoo's nest" you should know, that guy was the only sane one and was shocked because he was a threat to the establishment that had all the other sheep under control and quite docile.  That would be the group you are a part of.

[bubba]

What the hell have you been smoking?  Please keep it to yourself.  My shirt says molon labe simply means I will not start it but if you come to get it, I will be ready.  So taking a message of change to the people is no good?  The gadsden flag simply means the same.  mind your business I will mind mine but when you get in my business I will push back.  I guess those thoughts offend you.  The outcome is change even if you do not want it. Simple as that.  

[bubba]

Oh and by the way you are still nuts.  Any news on the white crayons yet.

[Mr VJP]

And you ignore reality because you are ignorant. Credibility isn't something determined by the whims of the uninformed.

[bubba]

I guess they do net the patients use computers and the psych center.   You guys are beyond reality so far ti is sad to think someone has let you get this way.untreated.  BTW thanks for the free advertisement of my web site.  many hits after and a lot of positive feedback.  I appreciate it.

Edited May 30, 2014 by bubba

[Mr VJP]

And you sir, wouldn't know reality if it bit you in the azz. Enjoy your stupor.

[steve863]

VJP, you accuse everyone of being sheep, Could you please give us a list of things that you have done that showed YOUR bravery and valor in standing up against government or anything else for that matter? So far you can't even answer a simple question when you are asked. All you do is bitch about everyone else, like it's always someone else's fault and never yours. How is that different from liberal philosophy that you can't stand?? In my opinion, and I'm quite sure in the opinion of many around here, you are pretty much a legend in your own mind and that's about the extent of it. Good day!

[bubba]

Hmm I just looked and all of my guns are still in my safe.  maybe they took yours but mine are still here and as long as I can breathe, I will fight to keep them there just as I have been for years.  Just because you say you are too old to stand up for yourself, others will do it for you just as I am sure it has been all your life.  Sit back and say it will not work and when it does stand up to take credit.  The more you type, the more your true feelings are coming through, even though you try to cloak them behind being a gun owner and supporter.  It is becoming more evident how false that is.  I can see through and so can others.  Now go report to the wanna be king.

[bubba]

L love how you quote one sentence. As the rest says I will fight to keep them there. What part of that do you not understand. I am sure as a conspiracy guy even you realize what they are trying to do.

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[Mr VJP]

VJP, you accuse everyone of being sheep, Could you please give us a list of things that you have done that showed YOUR bravery and valor in standing up against government or anything else for that matter? So far you can't even answer a simple question when you are asked. All you do is bitch about everyone else, like it's always someone else's fault and never yours. How is that different from liberal philosophy that you can't stand?? In my opinion, and I'm quite sure in the opinion of many around here, you are pretty much a legend in your own mind and that's about the extent of it. Good day!

I've posted a lot of this before, but just to prove how blatantly childish your assumptions are:

Hungarian born to revolutionaries 1 year prior to the 1956 Hungarian Revolution against the U.S.S.R. How's that for people who don't bend down to tyranny?

Brought to the US at age 2. Became a citizen at 10. Catholic school education. Fluent in Hungarian and English. Eagle Scout in the B.S.A. Also Order of the Arrow. Graduated High School with honors. Pre Law at Univ of Md, College Park. Law School Georgetown University, Wash, D.C. Served 4 years at the Naval Research Labs in Wash, D.C. with high level security clearance. Worked in Telecommunications for 25 years while also achieving the rank of Chief on my volunteer fire dept with Incident Command, Hazmat, Search & Rescue and Fast Team Leader Certification. EMT and Captain of the Town First Aid Squad as well. Currently serving in a NY State Law Enforcement position here in NY. Life Member of NRA & NAHC, NJ Arms Collectors Club, SCOPE, Naval Commanders Club, NSSF and SCI. I'm also a published author in the NAHC. Divorced and raised 2 daughters and a son as a single father. One Teacher, one Registered Nurse and one Small Business owner produced with my guidance.

I am also actively involved with various law firms as a firearms specialist with Constitutional expertise,that are fighting to defend 2nd Amendment rights in NY and NJ and have been party to a number of briefs filed on behalf of gun owners in both states. I could go on, but you're not entitled to any more info IMHO.

What I'm now wondering is, why am I even bothering here with the likes of you? If you still think I don't know of what I speak, you will never understand the warnings or advice you read.

In all my years, I have never encountered gun owners as stubborn, apathetic, cynical and rude, as I have in NY State. And that's why NY gun owners are in the mess they are in now. I see nothing changing in the future, due to the perpetual attitude of denial

I'm now done with you all.

[steve863]

I've posted a lot of this before, but just to prove how blatantly childish your assumptions are:

Hungarian born to revolutionaries 1 year prior to the 1956 Hungarian Revolution against the U.S.S.R. How's that for people who don't bend down to tyranny?

Brought to the US at age 2. Became a citizen at 10. Catholic school education. Fluent in Hungarian and English. Eagle Scout in the B.S.A. Also Order of the Arrow. Graduated High School with honors. Pre Law at Univ of Md, College Park. Law School Georgetown University, Wash, D.C. Served 4 years at the Naval Research Labs in Wash, D.C. with high level security clearance. Worked in Telecommunications for 25 years while also achieving the rank of Chief on my volunteer fire dept with Incident Command, Hazmat, Search & Rescue and Fast Team Leader Certification. EMT and Captain of the Town First Aid Squad as well. Currently serving in a NY State Law Enforcement position here in NY. Life Member of NRA & NAHC, NJ Arms Collectors Club, SCOPE, Naval Commanders Club, NSSF and SCI. I'm also a published author in the NAHC. Divorced and raised 2 daughters and a son as a single father. One Teacher, one Registered Nurse and one Small Business owner produced with my guidance.

I am also actively involved with various law firms as a firearms specialist with Constitutional expertise,that are fighting to defend 2nd Amendment rights in NY and NJ and have been party to a number of briefs filed on behalf of gun owners in both states. I could go on, but you're not entitled to any more info IMHO.

What I'm now wondering is, why am I even bothering here with the likes of you? If you still think I don't know of what I speak, you will never understand the warnings or advice you read.

In all my years, I have never encountered gun owners as stubborn, apathetic, cynical and rude, as I have in NY State. And that's why NY gun owners are in the mess they are in now. I see nothing changing in the future, due to the perpetual attitude of denial

I'm now done with you all.

I didn't ask for your resume, I asked you what YOU did in standing up against this tyrannical government you keep complaining about or anything else that you are against? I could care less what you did for a living in your life or that you are divorced. Your parents being revolutionaries doesn't make you one since you were 2 years old at the time. Once again you did not answer any questions. You only bitch about everyone else and accuse everyone of being a sheep. If we are sheep, you are a goat because you keep proving it post after post.

Edited June 1, 2014 by steve863

[steve863]

And now it's over to Steve. Tell us your credentials son.

My credentials and education are good enough to be able to tell that you are an idiot. Is that good enough for you??