OK to share? Safe act Question

[NeverSeenNorHeard]

I haven't read the entire act and apologize if this has been covered but here's my question. 

 

If I go to shoot some clays and bring a friend (non gun owner), can that friend shoot my shotgun as well, or am I in violation of the law? Thanks!

[ants]

He can shoot. Under a proposed Federal law, that failed, that would have been a Felony.  Common sense laws..LOL>

[NeverSeenNorHeard]

Thanks!

[WingNut]

Ants! What was the proposed law? Never ever heard of anything so redonculous!

What does being a Gun Owner have anything to do with shooting sporting clays, sheet or using someone else's legal firearm?

[Mr VJP]

The law would have made any firearm "transfer" without an FFL and a NICS check a felony.  Giving your gun to anyone else would've been considered a "transfer" not matter what the situation involved.

 

Give it time.  It will become law sooner or later.  The anti's never give up on any gun law.

 

[WingNut]

As described, there would be no "transfer".  Both parties would be sharing the same firearm one being the owner.  That is the case in NY correct?

How would it be possible to teach the younger generation how to shoot.  Tell me if I am missing something.

[Mr VJP]

Unfortunately, only a lawyer well versed in the SAFE Act should be trusted to tell you for sure.  Too much of it is subject to interpretation.  Fortunately, most county Sheriffs have said they won't enforce it.  The State Police seem to be going after people though.

 

[HectorBuckBuster]

If all parts of the NY Safe Act ever get up and running you have not seen anything yet. Just wait till the background check for ammo goes into effect and there is up to a $10 background check fee on a box of ammo.So if you lose ammo or it get stolen you have to file a police report. All I can say is every hunter needs to get out and vote in Nov and vote Cuomo out. If he gets re-elected I bet the back ground check for Ammo mysteriously gets up and running, and more anti-gun laws will be passed.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

If all parts of the NY Safe Act ever get up and running you have not seen anything yet. Just wait till the background check for ammo goes into effect and there is up to a $10 background check fee on a box of ammo.So if you lose ammo or it get stolen you have to file a police report. All I can say is every hunter needs to get out and vote in Nov and vote Cuomo out. If he gets re-elected I bet the back ground check for Ammo mysteriously gets up and running, and more anti-gun laws will be passed.

police report? how would they know that you just didn't go to the range and shoot it? I don't believe there are any provisions for serial numbered rounds.

[HectorBuckBuster]

Culvercreek, I am not joking, there is no serial number of rounds, but if they back ground check goes into effect, they will have a list of type,caliber and amount of ammo you have bought.I have printed and read the NY Safe Act over a lot. Go to this link and then to S51 1a & 1b.

 

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/s2230-2013

 1. (a) Any owner or other person lawfully  in  possession  of:  (I)  afirearm, rifle or, shotgun who suffers the loss or theft of said weapon;(II)  AMMUNITION  AS WELL AS A FIREARM, RIFLE OR SHOTGUN WHO SUFFERS THELOSS OR THEFT OF SUCH AMMUNITION AS WELL AS A FIREARM, RIFLE OR SHOTGUN;OR (III) AMMUNITION AND IS A DEALER IN FIREARMS OR SELLER OF  AMMUNITIONWHO  SUFFERS  THE  LOSS OR THEFT OF SUCH AMMUNITION shall within twenty-four hours of the discovery of the loss or theft report  the  facts  andcircumstances  of  the loss or theft to a police department or sheriff'soffice.  ( Whenever a person reports the theft or loss of  a  firearm,  rifle[or],  shotgun  OR  AMMUNITION  to  any  police  department or sheriff'soffice, the officer or department receiving such  report  shall  forwardnotice of such theft or loss to the division of state police via the NewYork  Statewide  Police  Information  Network.  The notice shall containinformation in compliance with the New York Statewide Police InformationNetwork Operating Manual, including the caliber, make,  model,  manufac-turer's  name  and  serial  number, if any, and any other distinguishingnumber or identification mark on the weapon.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

I understand. But do you think they believe it is like a refrigerator? That you will have it and never use it? Without an identifiable serial number they could never trace ammo back to you.

Edited September 12, 2014 by Culvercreek hunt club

[Jaeger]

Quick note.  Don't know how good a friend yours is but keep in the back of your mind a person with a Felony on his record can't legally own or even possess (hold) a firearm unless they obtained a relief from disabilities certificate from the Judge.

 

Sounds like a silly concern, but you put yourself at risk if you don't know and let someone use your guns.  And a Felony on a record can come from a few non violent convictions, dwi, other driving offenses that you may not know about.

 

Just something I run into occasionally when people ask to see or use my guns.