No Voter Fraud? Wake Up People!

[Mr VJP]

I can't believe anyone would believe there is no voter fraud going on.  Seems to me the Democrats protest too much, when it seems to benefit them the most.

 

I don't put it past them to cheat, lie and steal, any way they can, to stay in power and ultimately ruin this country.

 

Voter Fraud and Voter I.D.

By Thomas Sowell · Nov. 4, 2014

 

   

 

"One of the biggest voter frauds may be the idea promoted by Attorney General Eric Holder and others that there is no voter fraud, that laws requiring voters to have a photo identification are just attempts to suppress black voting.

Reporter John Fund has written three books on voter fraud and a recent survey by Old Dominion University indicates that there are more than a million registered voters who are not citizens, and who therefore are not legally entitled to vote.

The most devastating account of voter fraud may be in the book “Injustice” by J. Christian Adams. He was a Justice Department attorney, who detailed with inside knowledge the voter frauds known to the Justice Department, and ignored by Attorney General Holder and Company.

One of these frauds involved sending out absentee ballots to people who had never asked for them. Then a political operator would show up – uninvited – the day the ballots arrived and “help” the voter to fill them out. Sometimes the intruders simply took the ballots, filled them out and forged the signatures of the voters.

These were illegal votes for Democrats, which may well be why Eric Holder sees no evil, hears no evil and speaks no evil.

As for race-based “voter suppression,” amid all the political hysteria, how many hard facts have you heard? Probably none that supports that claim. Widely available free photo identification cards mean that poverty is no barrier to voting.

Since blacks and whites both have to show photo I.D. for everything from cashing checks to getting on a plane, why has requiring a photo I.D. for voting caused such shrill outcries?

Unfortunately, this is part of the cynical politics of promoting as much racial polarization and paranoia as possible, in hopes of getting more black voters to turn out to vote for the Democrats.

Nothing is too gross when promoting racial hysteria in an election year. Veteran Democrat Congressman Charlie Rangel from Harlem declared that Republicans “don’t disagree – they hate!” According to Rangel, “Some of them believe that slavery isn’t over and that they won the Civil War!”

Republicans did win the Civil War. That’s why there is no more slavery. It was a Republican president who issued the Emancipation Proclamation. It was a Republican-controlled Congress that voted for the 13th Amendment, outlawing slavery.

In the 1960s, a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats voted for the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. If we are going to talk about history, let’s at least get the facts right.

Only an utter ignorance of history, in this era of dumbed-down education, could allow demagogues like Rangel to get away with the absurdities that abound in election year politics.

Images of lynching and Jim Crow laws that made blacks sit in the back of buses are used against Republicans, even though the “solid South” was solidly controlled by Democrats during that era.

Bull Connor, who turned police dogs and fire hoses on civil rights demonstrators, was a Democrat. So were other Southern segregationists. In those days, you could go hundreds of miles through the Jim Crow South without seeing a single Republican official. That is why political observers called it “the solid South.”

Perhaps the biggest voter fraud of all is the fraud against black voters, by telling them bogey man stories, in order to try to get them to come out on election day to vote for Democrats.

The most cynical of these bogey man ploys is Attorney General Holder’s threats of legal action against schools that discipline a “disproportionate” number of black boys. Unless you believe that black boys cannot possibly be misbehaving more often than Asian American girls, what does this political numbers game accomplish?

It creates another racial grievance, allowing Democrats like Holder to pose as rescuers of blacks from racist dangers. The real danger is allowing disruptive students in ghetto schools to destroy the education of other black students – in a world where education is the only hope that most ghetto youngsters have for a better life.

Sacrificing these young people’s futures, in hopes of gaining some additional black votes today, is as cynical and fraudulent as it gets."

 

Favor Amnesty?  Forget Freedom!

http://dailysignal.com/2014/10/29/latest-reason-oppose-amnesty-voter-fraud-2/

 

http://patriotpost.us/posts/30138

 

 

Indeed, Obama declared Wednesday, "Before the end of the year we're gonna, uh, uh, take whatever lawful actions that I can take that I believe will improve the functioning of our immigration system. ... Whatever executive actions that I take can be replaced and supplanted by action by Congress. You send me a bill that I can sign and those executive actions go away." In other words, if Congress won't do what he tells them to do, then he will act unilaterally with executive orders. If Congress doesn't like it, all they have to do to make those executive orders go away is just do what he tells them to do.

 

Columnist David Harsanyi explains the serious consequences of this plan: “Obama has basically admitted again that he believes the president -- if he’s passionate enough about a certain issue -- is free to craft legislation. And by consistently equating his forthcoming executive action with bills passed by Congress, Obama acknowledges the purpose of his unilateral moves is to enact new policies or pressure Republicans into giving him what he wants. Which is a big problem if you care about the Constitution.”

 

There has been enough proof documenting voter fraud to see it as a real attack on the Constitutional right to vote in America.  If illegals are granted amnesty, they will vote for Democrats by the millions, and you will never be able to get them out of power in this country again.

 

That my friends,  will be the end of the Free America operating under rule of law and the Constitution, that we used to love.

 

 

[tony m]

I think it isn't out in the forefront to be used as a whiner thing.

 

Good article.

 

 

[Five Seasons]

do you really think there's enough fraud to make a difference in a liberal state? Some people spend too much time trying to justify the way this state is and figure out if there's a magic loophole. There is not. You live in a very liberal state.

Edited November 6, 2014 by Belo

[Mr VJP]

I'm not addressing NY state here.  The Democrats don't need to resort to fraud in NY.  There are enough fools that vote for Democrats in NY to keep them happy in Albany. But if too many Republicans get elected to too many seats, they may start to use a lot of these tactics.

 

BTW, I escaped from NY state already.  I just own land and hunt there now.  My only interests in NY politics now are the property taxes and gun laws that affect me when I go there.

 

 

 

[the blur]

^{I just got into a big voter fraud argument with a libtard.    They are in complete denial that there is voter fraud.    They really think it's a lie perpetrated by FOX.     These people are brain washed, and cannot think for themselves.}

[Sogaard]

I'm not getting into this again on a different thread, but in-person voter fraud is a very rare occurrence and statistically insignificant. Most voter fraud occurs through the use of affidavit ballots, which showing an ID at the poll site doesn't help in any way.     

 

Read the "Really Cuomo again" thread for details.

 

If you really want to prevent voter fraud, and not just suppress the legal voting rights of people who don't vote the way you vote, here are a couple of good reads:

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/10/13/the-disconnect-between-voter-id-laws-and-voter-fraud/

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/04/how-to-stop-voter-fraud-and-increase-turnout-at-the-same-time/

 

 

[nyantler]

Nothing from the Washington Post is a good read

[Mr VJP]

In person voter fraud does happen, though it isn't a big issue state wide or nationally.  But a couple of extra votes can affect the outcome of local and county elections.  Those are the positions many elected officials start from, and if not for fraud, would never have been allowed to start.

 

There is no reason NOT to make people show ID when they vote.  As was stated above, ID is required for so many things, voting should certainly be one of them.

 

That's just one issue with voting fraud.  There are many more.  They ALL must be addressed.  The most important point in the issue is that most all of the incidents of fraud that have been identified have been schemes that benefit Democrats.  That's why they are so adamant voter fraud is a myth!

 

[Mr VJP]

Why do Democrats have an issue with ID?