IRL Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I started forest management in 2008 and experiencing similar results to Berniez. Timber stand improvement, hinge cut near a wetland, invasive plant removal, releasing white and red oaks, planting a variety of soft mast (apples, elderberry, winterberry, serviceberry, highbush cranberry), removal/control of beech root suckers and learning the land in the process. Very limited use of herbicides; only applied to cut stumps of buckthorn, privet and really nasty multi-flora rose that could not be pulled out. Lots of help from hunting partners and some assistance from the NRCS EQIP program. Jersey Guy there is a new EQIP funding cycle (not 480 program) and you may be eligible for assistance. They now pay for the management plan and there is short list of qualified plan writers (the bad guys have been "weeded" out). http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/wps/portal/nrcs/main/ny/programs/financial/eqip/ My other recommendations: http://newleafenvironmental.com/ http://whiteoaknursery.biz/restore/index.shtml http://www.twisted-tree.net/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRL Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I have 33 acres surrounded by 5,000 acres of state land. The locals are wondering where/how I am shooting these 3.5/4.5 year old bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I have 33 acres surrounded by 5,000 acres of state land. The locals are wondering where/how I am shooting these 3.5/4.5 year old bucks. LOL, a measuring stick. It's huge! Just because it works for you in your scenario doesn't mean it can be painted with a wide brush. Management practices are starting to show it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Let me guess...a forester told you to get rid of those beech trees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRL Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Agreed on no wide brushes in land management. It is site specific and goals are personalized. Regarding beech, we have located small stands (2-3) of larger trees that do not appear to have beech bark disease and some individual medium size trees that are now flagged and protected. We have used mechanical cutting of diseased beech root suckers under closed canopy conditions (July-August) with cutting or girdling of larger trees. Some of the larger disease-free trees dropped nuts last fall which we collected for propagation. Genetically they have a 50% chance of being disease free. One of my management goals is to remediate a beech-hemlock stand. It's a lofty goal but we are trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berniez Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Jersey guy- Do not give up hope. Persistence is the name of the game. BTW I grew up in Jersey nut did not move up here until 10 years ago so I know your frustration of no time no money and little help until a week before deer season. I'm in Otsego county What county did you decide to buy property in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jersey guy Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Thanks for all the info guys I had property in otsego originally sold that now in herkimer about 30 north of Utica my goal is to retire on property 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SplitG2 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 where was your property in Otsego? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jersey guy Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Morris had 65 acres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jersey guy Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 Heading north for weekend has anyone been able to spray yet or is overnight temps too low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) I did 3 acres the other day temps have been great here...I am already seeing wilting...I ran out of surfactant and decided to use Dormant oil" insecticide" with the glyphosate as a "sticker"...worked wonders and will help with any ant and crawling insects I have problems with..solve two issues at once. Edited May 7, 2015 by growalot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jersey guy Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 thanks grow heading out for supplies now so i dont have too run around tomorrow let u know how i make out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Just check weather for rain before spaying.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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