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5 minutes ago, diplomat019 said:

Wasnt trump advocating censoring parts of the internet? If your worried about the un in this scenario i would be equally as worried with what trump said. 

If you mean having a bit of oversight regarding the growth and organizational structures of Radical Islamists intent on destroying our country, yep. Trump, and many others, have suggested that's part of a strategy toward stopping them. BTW, the U.N. fully supports any and all efforts to damage and diminish the U.S.

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3 hours ago, philoshop said:

If you mean having a bit of oversight regarding the growth and organizational structures of Radical Islamists intent on destroying our country, yep. Trump, and many others, have suggested that's part of a strategy toward stopping them. BTW, the U.N. fully supports any and all efforts to damage and diminish the U.S.

Then my question is why are you weary of the UN controlling the internet, yet not trump?  To me it seems like you do not want political/governmental overreach in your daily life.  correct?   Yet we are so quick to throw away those freedoms when trump says it under the guise of safety.  I think the principal of the mater is whats important.  Just as quickly as we can use terrorism as a reason to monitor some peoples lives it can monitor all of us.  Im guessing your rebuttal will be "don't you want to stop islamic terrorists at any and all costs?".  And my answer is yes.  I do.  But at what cost?  You could stop child abuse by installing cameras in everyones home to catch the bad guys.  But then what have we become?  Its a police state.  You tell me.  I think I bring up some good points.  

I have seen this quote used to defend the 2nd amendment, so why not apply to everything?

 

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”  

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I'm not comfortable with countries like China and Russia having a major say in what may or may not be openly presented on the only "free press" that actually exists today.

I fully understand your point regarding liberty and safety, and I won't voluntarily give up either. Intelligence agencies around the world already monitor the internet but they don't control the content. This abdication moves the power of control to a lot of countries with basically anti-American views. The U.S. has the power of control, but they wisely haven't used it thus far. Obama has handed over that power to people who will absolutely use it.

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