Elmo Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Actually, minimum draw weight is 35 lbs in NYS to hunt deer. Nothing about ft/lbs. http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/8305.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJC Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Easton arrows was the source for 25 ft ib No not to arrows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 25 ft-lbs for medium sized game... Any references to this number? You're using a calculator specifically for arrows? What's the BC of the arrow you used in your calculations? I'm with you in this one, he's pulling numbers out of his rear and stating them as facts.Don't bother trying to reason with him Shawn he's way too intelligent!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJC Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 51 minutes ago, shawnhu said: 25 ft-lbs for medium sized game... Any references to this number? You're using a calculator specifically for arrows? What's the BC of the arrow you used in your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJC Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Don't take 140 yards shots at deer with bow no matter what the numbers are. That's what rifles are for . Get a proper hunting rifle if you want to do that . Edited September 20, 2016 by LJC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 17 ft lbs will penetrate head or neck sufficiently to take a deer at these distances. I intend not to go beyond 30 this year myself but if I see some really long range stuff, say 70,80 yards it will be nothing but neck and head shots!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJC Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 8 hours ago, Core said: 17 ft lbs will penetrate head or neck sufficiently to take a deer at these distances. I intend not to go beyond 30 this year myself but if I see some really long range stuff, say 70,80 yards it will be nothing but neck and head shots! Just get closer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 One thing I noticed with this video was that the warthog at the time of the shot was facing the bowhunter directly face on, drinking. I mean, nearly dead straight on. And yet after the kill, the hog's wound was nicely tucked right behind the left leg...... exactly where you would want to hit him on a standing broadside shot. Now, I'm not going to say that that was an impossible result given the circumstances at the shot, but to me it looks a bit questionable. It did kind of make me think how easy it would be to set up a gun kill to look like a bow kill if someone were to want to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJC Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Doc said: One thing I noticed with this video was that the warthog at the time of the shot was facing the bowhunter directly face on, drinking. I mean, nearly dead straight on. And yet after the kill, the hog's wound was nicely tucked right behind the left leg...... exactly where you would want to hit him on a standing broadside shot. Now, I'm not going to say that that was an impossible result given the circumstances at the shot, but to me it looks a bit questionable. It did kind of make me think how easy it would be to set up a gun kill to look like a bow kill if someone were to want to do so. Yea I was thinking the same thing the animal looked like it was facing him but the injury looked like it came from a different angle. Im sure this guy is good but this looks fishy to me . And the video was definitely cut in length . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc said: One thing I noticed with this video was that the warthog at the time of the shot was facing the bowhunter directly face on, drinking. I mean, nearly dead straight on. And yet after the kill, the hog's wound was nicely tucked right behind the left leg...... exactly where you would want to hit him on a standing broadside shot. Now, I'm not going to say that that was an impossible result given the circumstances at the shot, but to me it looks a bit questionable. It did kind of make me think how easy it would be to set up a gun kill to look like a bow kill if someone were to want to do so. Well, I have no problem saying it was impossible, because the heart shot wasn't the first one he took. He says in the description, and you can see on camera, him running after it following the first shot. Then at 2:16 in the video you can see blood on the hog's back from the first shot that was far back; he hit it twice. Quote Yea I was thinking the same thing the animal looked like it was facing him but the injury looked like it came from a different angle. Im sure this guy is good but this looks fishy to me . And the video was definitely cut in length . You posted this video. Didn't you watch the entire thing or read the description under it? --- As for KE, in another video Tim says he is shooting at 251 fps at a bird. That probably changes in some hunts, but a 400 grain arrow at 251 has 56 ft lbs. At 140 yards it's still well over 30 foot lbs. I believe people overestimate the KE reduction of arrows at range. Edited September 21, 2016 by Core Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJC Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Core said: Well, I have no problem saying it was impossible, because the heart shot wasn't the first one he took. He says in the description, and you can see on camera, him running after it following the first shot. Then at 2:16 in the video you can see blood on the hog's back from the first shot that was far back; he hit it twice. You posted this video. Didn't you watch the entire thing or read the description under it? --- As for KE, in another video Tim says he is shooting at 251 fps at a bird. That probably changes in some hunts, but a 400 grain arrow at 251 has 56 ft lbs. At 140 yards it's still well over 30 foot lbs. I believe people overestimate the KE reduction of arrows at range. I am pretty sure its less then that even tho I didn't use a arrow specific ballistic calculator because could not find one that goes that far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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