Non toxic weed control

[Chef]

So let's talk about round up, as many of you know I'm planning on putting some plots on my new land this spring and am starting To lay some of the ground work now.... does anyone have any suggestions of what to used besides round up. My wife is very against me using it

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[Curmudgeon]

My suggestion is: listen to your wife!

[Chef]

My suggestion is: listen to your wife!

I am listening that's why I'm asking for suggestions... I'll add a pic so you guys can see what I'm looking to get rid of


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[LET EM GROW]

Disk the soil up a few separate times before the planting date. It wont rid all your weeds but it will help some if you do not want to use any weed killer spray applications.

Im sure there is home remedies you can use for weed killer. 1 gallon vinegar to 1oz/gallon dish soap worked well ive heard. One of my design engineers only uses home remedies i can ask her. But ive heard alot about 1gallon of vinegar with 1oz dish soap.. killed most grasses and weeds but not all.

[Chef]

Disk the soil up a few separate times before the planting date. It wont rid all your weeds but it will help some if you do not want to use any weed killer spray applications.
Im sure there is home remedies you can use for weed killer. 1 gallon vinegar to 1oz/gallon dish soap worked well ive heard. One of my design engineers only uses home remedies i can ask her. But ive heard alot about 1gallon of vinegar with 1oz dish soap.. killed most grasses and weeds but not all.

Thanks, the soil there is very soft organic material.... what if I took hard rake and raked out all the weekend and then did it again as they start to come back.... thinking about doing clover there in the spring


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[growalot]

I use it but personally would never near water ways. Crop rotations of plants with weed seed suppressing abilitees. If you actually Googled that. A wealth of info. should show up. ...buckwheat,WR are 2 and plant timing in these rotations depth of planting ,mowing ,timing on mowing..Nothing ever stimulates all weeds.

[growalot]

I looked at that again... go with a rye grass..yes deer like it..it will handle moisture with clovers...That area does not look conducive to a lot of on hands management. Rye is know as a "choker" crowding type grass...but deer like it and that means you may not have clover in it well past a couple of years...but you probably won't have a whole lot of weeds making it either..low maintenance...pocket book and wife friendly....

https://www.qdma.com/ryegrass-going-grain/

 

Edited December 5, 2016 by growalot

[LET EM GROW]

19 hours ago, chefhunter86 said:

Thanks, the soil there is very soft organic material.... what if I took hard rake and raked out all the weekend and then did it again as they start to come back.... thinking about doing clover there in the spring


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Not sure if a rake will be heavy enough without killing yourself. but anyway to scratch up the surface and try to expose the weed roots to air. there are a few blends out there id try if it was my spot. A blend with a few different clovers white and red and some type or cereal rye or wheat of some sort.. but im not a pro at food plotting. just have a few years of it under my belt  lol

[growalot]

You want to watch the area closely in spring..it looks like a flood zone.

[LET EM GROW]

You want to watch the area closely in spring..it looks like a flood zone.

Exactly, I meant to mention flooding and forgot... typical lol

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[growalot]

If I'm seeing it correctly you can see where the bank was cut away by water and the layer of left behind gravel.

[Chef]

If I'm seeing it correctly you can see where the bank was cut away by water and the layer of left behind gravel.

From what I understand that was from hurricane sandy and it normally doesn't flood like that


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[LET EM GROW]

there is 1 or 2 species of clover that can withstand some flooding if it were to happen. one being Aslike Clover, so i read. Cant hurt anything to try. But for a first time plot i always planted a blend to see what they like the most. Especially in case they do not like something in particular, and you planted it all that way.  

[dbHunterNY]

On 12/5/2016 at 4:17 PM, growalot said:

I looked at that again... go with a rye grass..yes deer like it..it will handle moisture with clovers...That area does not look conducive to a lot of on hands management. Rye is know as a "choker" crowding type grass...but deer like it and that means you may not have clover in it well past a couple of years...but you probably won't have a whole lot of weeds making it either..low maintenance...pocket book and wife friendly....

https://www.qdma.com/ryegrass-going-grain/

 

on the family farm all the grazing beef cattle are gone.  some of the smaller secluded pastures we weren't quite ready to turn into alfalfa hay fields and got a forage rye grass to keep the rose bushes, trees, and weeds from coming in.  it's worked pretty well.  the deer prefer the nice lush alfalfa growth after each cutting in other fields, but they do feed on the forage rye grass.  especially into later november and early December as everything grows more dormant and brown.  even more so with them being secluded and having less hunting pressure.  with food source availability not the same for him, he'd probably see it be even more of a magnet for deer.  acorns within cover might be the only thing that trumps it.

[dbHunterNY]

we put in perennial not annual rye grass though.  there's differences between the two when it comes to things like shade tolerance, wet or dry soil, and plans for the plot.