longislandbowhunter

Getting Winded by Permethrin

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17 minutes ago, BKhunter said:

Someone was saying there is an alternative that you can buy at tractor supple and make your own. Ay idea what I can ask for at tractor and what is the ratio to add to water?

Do some research on this before u try it. I did some years back. no dont quote me here. But I want to say the stuff from tractor supply was oil based. The sawyer stuff is water based. Something like that. Anyhow. I tried mixing my own. I do not like the smell! Very strong! Get winded for sure! So I stick with the sawyer now. Like people have Said. It's worth every penny. And they say it lasts 7 washes. I personally apply a few times threw out year. Good luck! Stay safe!

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Been hunting 6 times since opening day. Here has been my observations.

Washed all of my hunting clothes, backpack, driving clothes, etc. in scent free. Hang to dry.

Soaked all of my socks, and sprayed all other clothes, rubber boots, hats, etc. in 0.5% permethrin.

I also treated my driving clothes and the interior of my truck with a light spray

of permethrin to be safe. Hung to dry, then put everything in rubbermaid bins.

 

I always change my clothes when I go into and out of the woods, and try to keep everything in a

bin in my truck regardless. I also tuck my socks into my pants, wear rubber boots, tuck my shirt in,

wear a neck gaiter, and a hat. So keep this in mind. Over the course of 6 days, in a few different locations,

pine, oak, low brush, tall grass fields, etc. I have been absolutely covered in adult ticks and larval/ seed ticks swarms

at some point every single day hunting. At one point it looked like I had sequence on my pants there were so many,

possibly hundreds. Another day i walked right into a nest and my face was covered in larval/ seed ticks. 

 

Long story short, this stuff WORKS! I have observed, on many occasions, ticks looking like they were drunk, and falling

off my clothes. One minute I will be covered, the next minute they have all fallen off my clothes. I have founds countless

dead ticks in my pants pockets and in the folds of my clothing.

 

Every morning or evening when I come home from hunting. I immediately shower and check for ticks. In 6

different trips I have found ZERO TICKS on my body. I have never experienced this before while hiking or hunting using deet,

picardin, etc.

 

The mosquitoes did not seem to care. Maybe it helped a little; I could not be sure on that one. They are just too fast

I noticed a number of dead ants on my boots one morning when I used fresh apples as a cover scent. Ants aren't much

of a problem in my area. I also still managed to get poison ivy when I kicked off my boots to stalk a doe in my socks and

I managed to have a nice 8 pointer duck my arrow at 20 yards broadside with his head in the leaves. So I can't say the

permethrin cures or prevents stupidity.

 

Heres the fun part. Smell and getting winded. I like to hunt from the ground a lot, spot and stalk, still hunting. I stalked

a handful of deer through tall grass fields. So scent control is important here. I was a winded once that I know of. Can I say it

was attributed to the permethrin? Maybe. It is entirely possible the deer smelled the permethrin. I wasn't wearing my pack, all

I had was the clothes on my back and my bow; which I am pretty confident were as close to scent free as you are going to get.

The real question is do I give a shit? Absolutely not. This stuff is so fucking good at what is does, and if I get winded every once

in awhile, but steer clear of lymes disease, I am all about it.

 

TLDR: I still don't know if this stuff has an odor and will get you winded, but I don't want lymes disease, and this stuff is practically

magic so I won't go into the woods without it ever again.

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On 10/2/2018 at 11:45 AM, nodeerhere said:

Do some research on this before u try it. I did some years back. no dont quote me here. But I want to say the stuff from tractor supply was oil based. The sawyer stuff is water based. Something like that. Anyhow. I tried mixing my own. I do not like the smell! Very strong! Get winded for sure! So I stick with the sawyer now. Like people have Said. It's worth every penny. And they say it lasts 7 washes. I personally apply a few times threw out year. Good luck! Stay safe!

 

Martins 10% Industrial Permethrin is free of petroleum distillates. That is what would give the stuff the oil smell.

 

With Martins 10%, you can just do some basic math. In order to achieve a 0.5% concentration, you mix 19 parts water with 1 part

permethrin. Boom sawyers for 1/100 of the price. Between treating my clothes, packs, gear, harness, bins, interior of my truck, blinds, etc.

I think I used roughly four 24 ounce spray bottles I filled up myself, maybe a little more with the socks. I don't know how I could even afford to buy sawyers? Now I have to re treat every 30 days, it just seems impractical. But to each their own on that. Just use this shit. It works!

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On 9/26/2018 at 8:19 AM, outdoorstom said:

Not trying to downplay the danger of ticks and recommend you take protective measures, but I've been in the woods a lot this year and haven't had 1 tick on me or my dogs.  I don't know why, but numbers are definitely down.

Me neither. And where i hunt the ticks were out of control last year. Ditto for my pets. Kinda odd no?

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