Hogue Freedom Fighter fixed mag

[NonTypical]

https://www.hogueinc.com/tactical-rifles/ar-15-m16/freedomfighter/ar-15-m16-freedom-fighter-fixed-magazine-conversion-kit-includes-drill-jig-2-drills-and-3-spring-pin-with-assemblies

I just came across this and was wondering if anyone has used this to make their gun compliant with the safe act. Seems like a nice alternative to a pinned mag. 
 

 

Edited June 1, 2020 by NonTypical

[cas]

Removable magazine is removable. 

[Chef]

https://www.hogueinc.com/tactical-rifles/ar-15-m16/freedomfighter/ar-15-m16-freedom-fighter-fixed-magazine-conversion-kit-includes-drill-jig-2-drills-and-3-spring-pin-with-assemblies
I just came across this and was wondering if anyone has used this to make their gun compliant with the safe act. Seems like a nice alternative to a pinned mag. 
 
 

Seems like you could use the AR maglock system for a lot less work


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[Chef]

Removable magazine is removable. 

Disagree the law says accept detachable magazine. When the rifle is broken apart it is no longer a functioning fire arm


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[cas]

Where does the law say "except when it's broken apart"? 

It's "no longer a functioning firearm" (where does the law say that as well?) right off the bat, it's empty, if it were functional you wouldn't be reloading it.    

Basically this modification changes the gun from having to push one button to drop the mag, to pushing two buttons to drop the mag.  I don't think I'd risk my freedom, future, home and meager life savings on the legal advice of some guy in a Brownells ad.  

Laws should be taking in their strictest interpitation , as read by your worst enemy. 

[NonTypical]

7 hours ago, Chef said:

Seems like you could use the AR maglock system for a lot less work


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I wasn’t familiar with that until now. Do you use one? I wasn’t able to find a definitive answer online, but will the use of either one make them compliant with the safe act? The Maglock sure seems like the easier way to go. 

[ApexerER]

To me the Mag lock is  a gray area. I ordered two of them. Ended up going featureless instead.....

[Chef]

Where does the law say "except when it's broken apart"? 
It's "no longer a functioning firearm" (where does the law say that as well?) right off the bat, it's empty, if it were functional you wouldn't be reloading it.    
Basically this modification changes the gun from having to push one button to drop the mag, to pushing two buttons to drop the mag.  I don't think I'd risk my freedom, future, home and meager life savings on the legal advice of some guy in a Brownells ad.  
Laws should be taking in their strictest interpitation , as read by your worst enemy. 

Ii disagree, it is no longer a semi auto fire arm
When broken open. Which makes it legal


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[Chef]

To me the Mag lock is  a gray area. I ordered two of them. Ended up going featureless instead.....

All of these devices are grey areas.


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[Chef]

I wasn’t familiar with that until now. Do you use one? I wasn’t able to find a definitive answer online, but will the use of either one make them compliant with the safe act? The Maglock sure seems like the easier way to go. 

I do use them yes. I will say all of these devices are grey areas. I am comfortable with that others here are not


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[NonTypical]

I may have to get one. Going to need to be able to reload quickly if the thugs come to my neighborhood. Lol