RELOADING 16 GAUGE

[defrazzle]

I could use some help - Am reloading some new 16 gauge hulls and although I am following the reloading tables, my final crimp is pushed in to where I can still see the pellets. Almost seems that the hull is to long OR there is not enough fill to provide a good crimp. Here is what I am using:

HULL: Cheddite 16 gauge - new 2 3/4"

POWDER: 27 grains -Blue Dot

WAD: Remington SP16 1 1/8 ounce

LEAD: 1 1/8 oz 7.5

Wad pressure is minimal.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

[defrazzle]

Well, I got all my issues resolved. Now I have nice 16 Gauge reload. It's amazing what the correct components will do. LOL

[jim335]

I'm interested in what you changed. Was it the hulls? Also what do you use that loading for?

[defrazzle]

I started off by having to purchase new hulls as I had none. These were Cheddite primed hulls. Although I had several bags of Remington SP16 wads, the height resulted in the 1 1/8 oz load of shot being too low to make a good crimp. So I ordered new wads that were taller and a bag of overshot cards. This combination made a big difference. Now the crimps look good and I was even able to use the SP16 wads with the overshot cards and the crimp looks much better also. I use the loading for grouse, pheasant, rabbit and snowshoe hares.

[jim335]

Thanks for the reply defrazzle. I haven't reloaded in over 30 years. I've got a Mec 600jr. 12ga. when I was 17 yrs old, I'm 59 now. Me and my buddy use to load shoe boxes full. We'd buy a couple cases of clay pigeons and a hand thrower and have a blast!

I used Red Dot for target loads. I see you using Blue Dot, and I remember that being used for hunting loads, that's why I asked.

Well good luck with your load, happy hunting!

[defrazzle]

Hey - It sounds like you need to get back into reloading. LOL

[GeePee]

I'm now a Kansas hunter and some years ago sold my 16-gauge. Now I am house cleaning and am inventorying just how many CASES of new, primed Remington 16-ga hulls I have so I can put them on craigslist. My long-time "pathology" is "stuff," but at late-60s age it's time to start thinning it out. Looking at prices, hulls seem to go around $14/100, new in box. So I am thinking $7/100 new in box. The Remington stock code on these is S23478.

Not sure how these would ship, but if anyone's interested email me ([email protected]) and we'll figure it out. My guess is UPS-ground; I can ship from a local FFL if need be.

BTW, I have listed now an old but nice Deitemeyer 16-ga reloader. I didn't know what to ask, so just took a flyer but no responses yet. See http://lawrence.craigslist.org/spo/3136575445.html

[defrazzle]

I'm now a Kansas hunter and some years ago sold my 16-gauge. Now I am house cleaning and am inventorying just how many CASES of new, primed Remington 16-ga hulls I have so I can put them on craigslist. My long-time "pathology" is "stuff," but at late-60s age it's time to start thinning it out. Looking at prices, hulls seem to go around $14/100, new in box. So I am thinking $7/100 new in box. The Remington stock code on these is S23478.

Not sure how these would ship, but if anyone's interested email me ([email protected]) and we'll figure it out. My guess is UPS-ground; I can ship from a local FFL if need be.

BTW, I have listed now an old but nice Deitemeyer 16-ga reloader. I didn't know what to ask, so just took a flyer but no responses yet. See http://lawrence.crai...3136575445.html

Hi Geepee - wish you had posted this a couple of months ago. I ended up ordering my hulls and now have plenty. Your price right.

I do like that 16 gauge re-loader and it looks very robust. I use a Lee loader that I purchased in 1977 - although not as beefy as yours it does load nice shells, came with all the shot and powder bushings you will ever need and works well. $29.00. I think your market for your loader is a "collector of loaders". Unless your loader comes with all bushings you may have a hard time selling it. IMHO

You can buy a brand new Lee 16 gauge loader for $80.00 .

http://www.amazon.com/Precision-Shotshell-Reloading-Press-Multi/dp/B002SF4WNQ

[GeePee]

I didn't have (obviously!) a clue what the loader might bring, so just thought I'd float it out and see what happened. Basically if I took $25 for it it'd be better than taking it to the recycle place locally. It has just one set of bushings-- I use my MECs for 20 and 12 and they have adjustable bars.

I'll have a local friend put the hulls on gunbroker or auctionarms. With the price of components, the primers ought to be worth a fair amount even with pushing them out! Not that I need primers myself though.... LOL!

[defrazzle]

I just checked on Ebay and it may be worth it for you to post it there. Check out all the loaders available and what they are going for.

Good luck

[GeePee]

Thanks! I'll take a look. One person asked, via email, a key question re the hulls, so I checked. ALL of them have primers that are non-209s. Again, I had no idea 16s early on didn't use a 209 primer. I've used 209s in 12s for ages. I put the hulls on craigslist, as someone may have use of them. If no, then landfill.

[Setters4life]

Thanks! I'll take a look. One person asked, via email, a key question re the hulls, so I checked. ALL of them have primers that are non-209s. Again, I had no idea 16s early on didn't use a 209 primer. I've used 209s in 12s for ages. I put the hulls on craigslist, as someone may have use of them. If no, then landfill.

Some info: Those Remington hulls use the old #57 primer (as opposed to the larger #97 Remington primer.) The #57 is slightly smaller in size than the current "209" style. They are a one-time proposition unless you have a stock of old primers. Those primers have been out of use for almost four decades. My guess too is those hulls have the old-style fiber base. There is load data out there that still works for them. I have a stock of the same hulls and use them. And I'm down to the last of my #57 stock; only 300 primers left!

The O.D. of the # 57's is approx. .230", while the 209 & 97's are approximately .245"

Edited August 11, 2012 by Setters4life