pistolp71

No, plain and simple. How anyone could argue otherwise, is ridiculous.

Early, are you black, oh wait, African American.?

Yup, I admit it, I'm a bigot. And you should also admit you are a Lib-tard.

Very true. A lot of people don't realize that.

Your as clueless as culver. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No you measure them and one will have a smaller number than the other. It's not subjective. Still want to see these 100 yard one hole shotgun groups. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This has nothing to do with my guns. Take 5 random shotgun hunters guns, most will be pumps or semis. And 5 random rifles hunters guns, most will be bolt actions. Go shoot them together and compare. Whether its needed or not one weapon is inherently more accurate than another. Just as certain calibers are. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I have no problem admitting I was wrong if I was. First like I said, most shotguns are not shooting one hole. And even if it did, you measure it to the rifle group and compare. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What am I not answering? Il be happy too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I think that may be issue here. Different views of accuracy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Just as suspected, you have no clue. You measure the furthest spread and deduct the caliber.only one will be more accurate. 99% of shotguns out there will not put 5 shots into one hole at 100 yards. Does yours? Now, do you need that kind of accuracy for most hunting in Ny? No, but the fact remains that MOST shotguns aren't as accurate as MOST rifles whether its needed or not. Plenty of places in Ny where shots beyond 100 yards are possible. It's simple Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I have tried as well. And the feeling is definitely mutual. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I feel like I'm talking to a liberal Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That what? A shotgun is as accurate as a rifle? Simply not true. Maybe you don't understand the definition of accuracy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So now you are resorting to stupid comments. And how exactly did I stick my foot in my mouth? Facts are facts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

And many that you can. I see you like to argue, I don't. I wasted enough time on this. Believe what you want and shoot what you wish. That's your choice. I've had enough. Merry Christmas. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ok, my patience and time are coming to an end. We were talking about accuracy, being able to hit the bull consistently. And yes, MOST shotguns, like SteveC pump mossberg cannot shoot as well as the average rifle. That's a fact. At this point I don't really care what you believe. It's been a while since I personally shot slug shotguns but have seen some modern shotguns with modern sabots that shot well. Still not as good as my, or anyone that I knows rifle. D they shoot well enough for deer at 100 yards? Yes. But there are times when you have a shot available at 200 yards, so why handicap yourself?

Right, and even at 100 yards a rifle is generally more accurate than a shotgun. Here we go again...

Didn't know we were strictly talking about NYS deer hunting under 100 yards. We were discussing accuracy.

Of course they CAN be. Like I said there are exceptions to everything. I was talking about inherent accuracy between the two.

Yes, 100 yards for that particular target. I have a bunch, but that particular rifle is Savage precision target action,timed and trued, custom stock, Krieger barrel, 6BR, 80 gr Berger seated 10 though in the lands, 32.8 grs of Varget, CCI 450 primer. Scope is a Leupold LRT 8.5-25 x50.

You mean we have been bickering back and forth for nothing?.

Agreed. If we are talking about deer at 100 yards or less. I do a lot of long range( out to 1000 yrds) varmint shooting. If your gun isn't shooting 1/4 moa or so, you aren't going to hit s---t at 1000. I don't care how good a shot you are. Even big game hunting out west where you are shooting at 3-4 hundred yards or more, a 3 moa gun isn't going to cut it.

I would never own one to begin with, so can't send it to you. I've never owned one even close to that bad and I have, and have had, a bunch. And yes, there are plenty of shooters with a accurate gun in their hand that cant hit a deer. But that's not what we are talking about. Talking about a particular weapons INHERENT accuracy