Deerthug

Wait spring turkey is closer only 133 days away But I agree with Steve, there is a whole lotta living to do between now and then . . . unless of course 12/21 is the end. Lol!

With all the talk about mental illnesses causing people to shoot up schools, malls and theaters, this is an interesting article about an FBI profiler who voiced her opinion that this kid didn't just snap. He methodically planned out his attack. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gunman-behavior-shootings-indicates-planning-control-former-fbi-180620270.html

Hey to each their own. Eat it raw or soaked in marinade. Enjoy it however you like.

And here's another wacko at a movie theater, but he was stopped by a smart cop, thank God! http://news.yahoo.com/gunman-shoots-1-texas-movie-theater-parking-lot-092834680.html

Nice! Good luck with it. I usually drive a 2009 Infiniti sedan but switch with my wife's jeep when I head up to camp.

Figured we all need a good laugh after Friday's tragedy!

An old man in Miami calls up his son in New York and says, "Listen, your mother and I are getting divorced. Forty-five years of misery is enough." "Dad, what are you talking about?" the son screams. “We can't stand the sight of each other any longer,” he says. "I'm sick of her face, and I'm sick of talking about this, so call your sister in Chicago and tell her," and he hangs up. Now, the son is worried. So he calls up his sister. She says, "Like hell they’re getting divorced!" and calls her father immediately. "You’re not getting divorced! Don't do another thing, the two of us are flying home tomorrow to talk about this. Until then, don't call a lawyer, don't file a paper, DO YOU HEAR ME?” and she hangs up. The old man turns to his wife and says "Okay, they’re coming for Christmas and paying their own airfares."

Welcome. Enjoy the ride!

You are absolutey correct that it is easier said than done. But as it was said before the responsibility lies with those who are close to the shooter. I think Morgan Freeman said it well which was posted on another thread that the media tends to emphasize their coverage of the shooter, and trying to figure out the why and what could have been done to prevent the tragedy rather than the victims. This just adds more fuel to the fire for other unstable people to "one-up" the last massacre. You say your chances of getting killed by a madman in a mall are about as good as winning the lotto - I bet the residents of Newtown thought the same thing before this past Friday.

Thank you for posting this link.

Since this event is still unfolding we still do not know whether this kid had some mental instability other than Aspergers that caused him to snap and do what he did. But looking back at the Aurora shooting it came out that the shooter was actively treating with a psychatrist for a mental dsorder and didnt't he tell his Dr about his plan to some extent? I totally agree that the parents or guardians are in the best situation to see the signs and take the proper steps to get them treatment and more importantly control their access to firearms in the house. Since this kid killed himself and his mother who may have been the only source from whom investigators could have obtained details about his life, I don't think we will ever know why.

I agree but this is why we need to have not laws but some stronger checks and balances to weed out those mentally unstable persons who are indifferent with no regard for human life from carrying out their plan using a firearm. But if a person is hell bent on committing an evil act they will find a way to do so whether they use an AR, hangun, bomb, knife, slingshot or box cutter "ala" 9/11.

After reading several threads about the Sandy Hook tragedy and gun control I am dumbfounded with all the personal attacks, insults and mudslinging that is being hurled on this forum. The fact remains that there are 26 people dead at the hands of a person who as of now we don't know the reason or motive behind this brutal tragedy other than the fact that he was mentally unstable. This is not the first time and we all know that sadly it will not be the last time something like this will happen. Good points have been made on both sides of the argument for and against more gun control. With all the arguments going back and forth I know one thing for certain, there is one common denominator - both pros and the antis do not like hearing or seeing events like what happened on Friday or this past summer in the Aurora movie theater and in the Sikh temple in Wisconsin or the mall in Oregon just this past week. Just today some guy was arrested for threatening to set his wife on fire and then shooting up a school for goodness sake. With that common denominator in mind, rather than tossing insults, don't you all think that actually coming up with a solution or several solutions which some on here have already suggested, so that we can come to some sort of compromise that will appease both sides to prevent these tragedies in the future? Isn't that the common goal we all want to achieve? The pro-gunners' argument usually hinges on arming everyone in the country and the anti's argument usually hinges on doing away with all guns in this country and allowing only the government to possess firearms. These arguments have gone in circles and have not done anything to prevent these tragedies. I think we all agree that there is not just one cause to the problem our society is facing that is resulting in these mass murders. There are several root causes among them a combination of which include lack of interest or care by parents in the home, broken homes, violence on TV, in movies and in video games, and mental illness which is abundant in our country and often times difficult to detect let alone control. So where and how do we begin? I am not sure where or how but firstly, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that we need to stop the mudslinging and insults against one another - that is just going to get us nowhere. Secondly we need to address and deal with the root causes mentioned above. Even though I'm a strong proponent of the 2nd amendment and I will defend my right as well as those of fellow responsible gun owners to own firearms to protect ourselves and our families, there have to be some checks and balances in place to prevent mentally unstable people from having "access to" weapons of any kind. We've all heard it before and we will continue to hear it said that gun control laws do not get illegal guns off the street - they just prevent law abiding citizens from protecting ourselves. With that also in mind although the guns that were used in the Sandy Hook massacre were legally purchased and registered to the mother who was a gun enthusiast, doesn't being a responsible gun owner mean making sure that your guns are locked up and inaccessible other than to you when you are not present and especially when you know you have a family member who has a known mental illness living in your home? Shouldn't those gun owners who find themselves in that situation be held accountable (except of course this kid's mother who can't be held accountable anymore as she was the first one killed)? Now putting aside the disgruntled employees who shoot up their workplace, isn't it usually the "quiet ones" or "socially awkward ones" that are the ones committing these vicious crimes for no apparent reason? Why are we as a people doing anything more to keep them in check? As we all know when we purchase long guns like the one used in the Sandy Hook tragedy, we have to go through somewhat of a background check. Maybe that background check should be a little bit more thorough to be able to weed out those with mental illnesses and those who have mentally ill members living in their home. Why shouldn't there be a follow up check for those who fill out the paperwork and who mark "no" when asked if there is a history of mental illness in one's family? Why are gun dealers taking people's word for it instead of having the ability to investigate further? Moreover, just like there is a registry once you become a convicted felon, or a terrorist on a do not fly watch list, or a sex offender on a registry, why shouldn't there be a registry for those who have been diagnosed with mental illnesses? There will be those who will be offended by this suggestion, but to bring you all back to reality, one common denominator had between most of these past shooters is mental instability and easy access to firearms. I'm not saying that there should be or there shouldn't be such a registry, but there needs to be some kind of stronger checks and balances system in place that will ensure that firearms do not fall into the hands of mentally unstable people. Maybe we should allow law abiding citizens, who are mentally stable, and who are properly trained to handle a firearm to be able to carry. As we already know and many of us agree, these shooters always target a place where the victims are defenseless, i.e. theaters, schools, churches, temples and the like. We certainly never hear of or read about a shooter targeting a police station. Maybe just maybe if these shooters knew that there was a possibility that one or more persons in the school, the theater, the temple, or the mall was carrying, they would think twice about carrying out their plans. I just read this morning that in a school in Texas, teachers are permitted to be armed provided that they go through the proper channels for obtaining a CC permit for their state/county. Why are there less acts of violence like theses in states where the right to carry is more prevalent? Because these punks know that they will meet with armed resistance. There is no right or wrong answer to any of the foregoing. But if we all want these tragedies to end, then there needs to be a plan of attack put into place. The insults and mudslinging need to be put aside and "we the people" including politicians, hunters, liberals and conservatives, pros and antis need to bang our heads together until we come up with a solution. Until this is done, these tragedies will continue to happen well into the future.

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Understood. But don't you marinade and season steak before cooking it or do you just throw it on the grill right out of the package? Just doesn't taste right to me without some seasoning or marinade.

I see. So in your expert opinion how should guys eat venison? Raw? No seasoning? Some motor oil? LOL!

Well dinner is done. The backstraps are long gone. The kid tried it. Don't think he liked it. Offered him some more and he politely said no thank you. I felt like i was offering him brussel sprouts. LOL. My son on the other hand went to town on the straps.

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Here we go. Marinaded in 10w30. LOL Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So I have had some backstrap and tenderloin swimming in my own marinade since Wednesday. Soy sauce, worcester sauce, extra virgin olive oil, pepper, salt, garlic and onion powder. I'm going to be putting them on the grill in a bit. Now the downside, my son's friend is over and will be staying for dinner. I asked him if he's ever eaten venison. His response was "no but my dad says it tastes like motor oil." WTF? I told him wait until you taste the ones I'm cooking tonite and then tell me if it tastes like motor oil.

As a father of two school age kids, I am terrified every morning when I see them off. What keeps me sane is the mentality that many of us have that "it can't happen in my town". But this tragedy in the small town in CT brought me back down to reality. I will be telling my kids how much I love them and I will give them both a long hug. There are families in CT who will never have the opportunity to do the same. Apparently this wacko was prepared for a long gun battle - body armor, glock semi-auto, sig sauer semi-auto and an AR15. He kills his entire family except his older brother who's ID he stole, and kills innocent kids who did nothing to him. I am a strong proponent of the 2nd amendment but something has got to give. Something has to be done. But rather than going back and forth endlessly about whether an armed teacher could have ended the tragedy or not, I don't know if we need more gun control, or we need less gun control to allow law abiding citizens to defend themselves against wack jobs like this guy today and just two days ago in the mall in Oregon. But again what if a trained law abiding citizens were allowed to carry - this tragedy could certainly have been avoided or fatalities reduced. I know there are those of you who are going to say even trained officers sometimes can't stop someone like that. But I'm sick and tired of hearing about these wackos getting their hands on guns be them legal or illegal and committing these crimes in areas where they already know they will not meet with any resistance.

Holy crap 27 dead 18 were kids! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I hope to God the kids are safe. But the news should get their stories straight. I read online different news reports that there were multiple fatalities and just heard it on FoxNews that "a dozen people were killed"???? Local officials just confirmed 12 killed - 20+ shot