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Good point about a history degree, ha! When my wife had our son I went to daddy day care because her Human Health and Sciences degree definitely pays more. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Grow, I graduated magna cum laude from IC in history...specifically pre-civil war era US. I'm sticking with my statement..I am a citizen, I am part of the government, and I do not fear it because my unalienable legal rights are protected under our system of laws. I'm also a greatgrandson of the American revolution, civil war, WWI, and grandson of the Korean conflict, and my father is retiring from the FAA after 30 yrs and 6 yrs airforce before that...I have an American right to my beliefs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ok..thanks for the evaluation. I just disagree that the gov is coming for our guns... Or that if you even had 4 tanks and an RPG in your garage that you could fend off the federal gov should they come knocking...who is the paranoid idiot? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm not afraid of the government, as a citizen I am part of it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yeah, I'm all for: -Banning large clips -background checks -reporting stolen guns in 24 hrs -safe storage -banning Internet sales of wanna-be assault weapons -registration of wanna-be assault weapons. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

it doesn't effect me either...I only care about my hunting guns, nobodies coming for those. Got no use for "tacticals" or big clips...mossy 500 buckshot slug buckshot slug is home defense enough for me. I'm a hunter and not a member of the NRA. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks missed that...will they be baiting only bear...can I put my bear bait out and shoot a deer over it, probably not. None Of this concerns me that much...we don't have a ton of bears here in 7j, if we did maybe I'd want to use baits and traps to keep em out of my garbage. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Excellent point, this is a generation of pill poppers, starting with parent approved uppers. Most of my friends who were prescribed Ritalin or aderol didnt use it but instead sold it to kids who used them as uppers. So when oxy came around in the late 90s we just though it was another fun pill. Until several of my friends had overdosed and died. This is when we started to realize it was pharm grade heroine. That was 15-16 years ago. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Just a fun fact...since our occupation of Afghanistan began they have quadrupled production of opium and US forces patrol and protect these fields to win/keep the hearts and minds of the locals. Concurrent with our invasion, shady methods by shady dr.'s and other pharm insiders put high powered pain killers (oxy, roxy) in large quantities on the streets where middle-class to upper-class high school and college kids took them at first recreationally but quickly became a generation of unexpected dope addicts. Then the pharm companies got a scolding (fines, just the cost of doing biz to any big corp) and have tightened up the availability of pain meds. No problem because now Afghanistan has four times as much opium! Heroine is now better, cheaper, more available and more socially acceptable among 14-36 yr olds than it was in the 70's when it was being smuggled in with dead soldiers from Vietnam...hmm wonder how its getting here now? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I read I and have no problems on first read...the way i understand it, they will consider over the next 5 years using dogs and bait as a possible method in areas where populations are high and human contact is common. The only "bear trap" I noticed was in relation to moving a live bear: "Strategy 5.1.2: Maintain clear policy and protocols to direct staff in the conduct of duties, particularly in regard to human health and safety and any actions that may generate high public interest or controversy (e.g., lethal removal of Class 1 bears, trap and relocation of nuisance bears, and cub rehabilitation standards)." Bear open in 7j sounds good to me...I've seen scatt and the old timers call the hill I hunt on Bear Hill. I may have missed it doc, but I don't see anything untoward. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Research comparable properties recently sold nearby if possible. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks all! @Ford: Because we have not actually finished negotiating the price...this years experience will help determine if the owner and I can get together on price. Right now we agree the property is within the same ballpark figure...so if all goes well this year then we will move foreward. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don't want to get into total price tag but I will say that we are trying to budget for about a $400/month payment for a specific period. Here is a Jersey company that does an interesting lease auction, no renews all properties come back up for auction in may: http://thompsonmanagementllc.com/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sorry forgot who I was dealing with...not worth it. 17 harvested - 1 lost in the past 4 years, but I guess that's "loosing" a lot of deer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

As the first quote in your post says I don't use crossbows even where legal but my older relatives do, and who are you to determine what leap is greater. IMO once you go beyond stick and string or flintlock and ball it is not really a primitive weapon...either tradition or technology, IMO you don't get to have both. Plenty of guys filling lots of tags with long and recurve bows...if they have a beef with xbows I'll respect that a bit more. Also am I to understand you think a crossbow is too accurate to be allowed? I prefer the challenge of a compound bow, but why limit a new hunter or older hunter or injured hunter from having the best chance at a successful recovery? And that second quote is not mine...I believe it was so eloquently posted by greg51. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Me and the dogs finished posting the boundary at the lease today, flushed quite a few birds...5 treestands on or within 15 yards of the boundary...2 facing in toward my lease, needless to say I posted heavy at those spots: I also found a ladder stand in nice shape in the center of the parcel...probably from the previous owner of the property, mine now: Also found this bee keeping hive and another great rub...looking forward to some shed hunting when the snow gets manageable: Feels great to be in the woods! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This is also my experience...I've harvested a couple out back and in NJ...they typically run to cover. Getting recovery permission from adjacent landowners prior to season is an ethical approach to 150' setback hunting. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I could use an xbow in pa and nj, and I've tried it but I find the xbow heavy and awkward. I like shooting my short ata bow. That said I wish it was legal here so my dad and pop could hunt archery up here. I also see the benefits of new hunters starting out with an xbow on a shooting rail and moving up to compund bow hunting after getting used to getting deer into archery range and mastering good shot selection/placement. I think if you are against xbow than throw away your compound and hunt traditional only. Same goes for your fancy rifles, trade em for flintlock if you feel so strongly about tradition or fairness or whatever. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Last year I overpaid @ almost $50/acre on a lease about 45 mins away that I only had hunting rights on and that was more than half ag fields and didn't have thick enough stuff to hold deer. I still harvested 4 deer off of it, but only a couple of mature deer. This year I paid a little over $40/acre but it is nearly fully wooded with tons of diversity in terms of topography, as well as timber species, thickness and maturity. It is still adjacent to ag, but most importantly I have 4 season recreational/camping rights to the property and can put in food plots as I please. Also it is only 15 minutes away. If not for these options I would not have went over $30/acre. If this works out this year we will probably begin an owner financed purchase of this property, so it's pretty much lease to own. Ive tried the hunting lease sites and timber co's and have been blown off and ignored. Both of my lease experiences are through private land owners I met on Craigslist. Once replying to an ad and once placing a wanted ad. I suggest placing an ad because the for-lease listings go really fast. This link is to a site that filters ny Craigslist results for land and leases: http://www.trophyhuntleases.com/index.php/component/newsfeeds/newsfeed/35-new-york-craigslist-leases I wrote both leases myself to fit everyones needs based on a number of sample leases. Lots of benefits to this arrangement. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Got out and posted the new lease, 2 straight days of boundary work in deep snow is keeping me in dragging shape: Found a few clear spots that may do well as small food plots: Also found a seem of mature hardwoods in the middle of my first pine stand and just above my first ridge: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks... Today I pulled my treestands and molded plastic posted signs off last years lease...marched the boundary and had to double back several times for stands through 12-15" of snow...I am beat. I'll be posting my new lease ASAP, but I hope the snow packs down a bit on the meantime. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It seems like finding and securing a lease is about as difficult as finding and harvesting a mature buck. I passed on renewing my 7f lease so I could get something within 15 mins, and more diverse and thicker woods. So I've been hunting hard for a lease for about a full month...had several slip away and also the normal blow-offs from disinterested hunting lease company reps. Despite all the setbacks I signed today on 25 wooded acres mixed species and mixed maturity only 15 minutes from my house and still in 7j. Adjacent to 90+ acres agriculture, it has two thick pines stands, overgrown thick orchards, three ridges, and well established mature hardwoods sloping down to a very thick immature hardwood stand. Also we have permission to use it recreationally all year with a campsite for my new little trailer my wife and I just purchased: Tons of sign, bumped 6 first time i walked it...good diversity of cover and the landowner is going to brush hog me an acre for a Foodplot, I am really pumped: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sounded like reeltime was coming right out of a qdm on-the-hoof manual and that was the most detailed and educated guess IMO. I thought the 3rd pic was slightly quartering and you could make out a good sag in the belly which led me to lean 4.5...but everything reeltime said was grounded in relative body feature assessment, rather than guessing at actual measurements with no scale reference like the majority. I say really nice NY10...142-145...ofcourse gonna have to get him down to tape him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Going from 1-30F in 4 hrs...gonna continue to sit here in NJ until noon or rain which ever comes first....then back home to daddy-daycare until DMFA next weekend. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Need a broadside for age...looks to be 4.5 from the front. I'm going mid-140's...beauty high and tight like I like em...but not super wide. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk