Grouse

Trying to educate misinformed libs is as effective as administering medicine to the dead. Simply pronounce them brain dead and mourn their loss.

This is an example of misinformation. This chart counts all hospitalizations for people who are in WITH COVID as well as BECAUSE OF COVID. At least 75% of these people are WITH COVID. If you are admitted into a hospital today for any reason, there's a very high probability you will become COVID positive soon after. When you find many of the folks are hospitalized for a broken leg, hernia or appendicitis, and now have COVID, the numbers begin to show the truth.

A guy who got a time out for posting lewd and perverted stuff, is calling for people who post political ideas opposing his preferred narrative, to be banned from the site. Why not just intellectually refute the posts rather than go full authoritarian and expose yourself as a tyrant? Think about that. Advocating censoring someone instead of debating the merits of your argument, is to admit your goal is not to expand knowledge, but to suppress it.

Trump did not bring out the worst in good people. Trump exposed the worst in people pretending to be good people.

Among all the vaccines I have known in my life (diphtheria, tetanus, measles, rubella, chickenpox, hepatitis, meningitis and tuberculosis), I want to also add flu and pneumonia, I have never seen a vaccine that forced me to wear a mask and maintain my social distance, even when fully vaccinated. I have never heard of a vaccine that spreads the virus even after vaccination. I have never heard of rewards, discounts and incentives to get vaccinated. I never saw discrimination against those who didn't. If you hadn't been vaccinated, no one tried to make you feel like a bad person. I had never seen a vaccine that threatens the relationship between family, colleagues and friends. I had never seen a vaccine used to threaten livelihoods, work or school. I had never seen a vaccine that would allow a 12-year-old to override parental consent. Of all the vaccines I listed above, I have never seen a vaccine like this one, which discriminates, divides and judges society as it is. It does all these things but provides no IMMUNIZATION. If we still need a booster dose after we are fully vaccinated, and we still need to get a negative test after we are fully vaccinated, and we still need to wear a mask after we are fully vaccinated, and still be hospitalized after we have been fully vaccinated, it is time for us to admit that we've been completely deceived.

First you would have to present a logical refutation on the facts presented, and no matter how many requests you get to do so, you never do. That makes you a proponent of silencing opinions you disagree with, regardless of their merits. That's why this board has a problem. It's not what is posted. It's who decides to complain about it.

So that means you aren't guilty of "bringing this site down"? You really are suffering from some tortured thinking today.

Perhaps you should investigate how many illegal aliens are in the country that have never been vaccinated against any of the diseases most Americans are.

Chef is off his meds today. LOL!!

How about your "What a Dump" thread? You really are a hypocrite. Skewed viewpoints? Expand on that if you can.

Is this a hunting site or a site for loony leftist conspiracy theories?

EMS ALS Paramedic and Admin

You two guys don't follow me here. I'm referring to the govt mandate that says only unvaxxed folks need to test and wear masks to keep their jobs. Do you deny that anyone can bring the virus into work and infect the entire workforce? If not, what has the mandate got to do with health and why persecute the unvaxxed when the only risk is their own?

Go ahead and challenge any part of the history mentioned in the post, or stop being a troll and a rat.

And that is the real question the government seems to be trying hard not to answer. Why is the vaccine being mandated and forced on the masses? It's obviously not about health and saying it is is easily refuted.

Until Louis Pasteur developed the rabies vaccine, “vaccines” had referred only to the cowpox inoculation for smallpox. His procedure was originally called “Pasteur’s treatment”, but Pasteur decided to honor the 18th century virology pioneer Edward Jenner, who publicized the cure for smallpox, and give these artificially weakened diseases the generic name of “vaccines”. Thus, we largely have Pasteur to thank for today’s definition of a vaccine as a “suspension of live (usually attenuated) or inactivated microorganisms (e.g., bacteria or viruses) or fractions thereof administered to induce immunity and prevent infectious disease or its sequelae.” Louis Pasteur’s work advanced the nascent field of virology and served to spur vaccine research all over the globe. In subsequent decades, live, attenuated vaccines were developed and introduced against a number of the world’s most deadly diseases including diphtheria (1888), plague (1897), tuberculosis (1927), yellow fever (1936), measles (1963), mumps (1967), rubella (1969), varicella (1995), and rotavirus (1998).

Is that how the Polio, Smallpox, Antrax, Cholera, Hepatitus, Rabies, Pertusses, Shingles, Tetanus, TB, Mumps and Measles vaccines work? My science training said otherwise.

Back to the COVID insanity....

I suspect runaway leftist paranoia.

Chef always accuses me of being someone else when he gets schooled in a debate.

But without a lengthy explanation and a vast amount of evidence and facts presented, some people would accuse me of posting BS. LOL!

WOW. You're so special. LOL!

HA! More proof you don't know what you're talking about!!! LOL!! I'm in Delaware County pal.

No they don't. They may not take Medicare or Medicaid or my not fall under HHS control. I work in Emergency Services. My daughter is an RN. Two sisters are RN's and many of my friends are in healthcare, including Doctors, Paramedics and other providers. I can tell you without any reservation you do not know what you are talking about.

Also many left hospital and emergency care work to take jobs in private doctors offices and clinics. They are now counted as "being in" the workforce, but not where the need for it is. Someone who doesn't know what they're talking about will always accuse others of posting BS.