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Trump brought down the price of insulin. Biden revoked that change. Trump tried to deal with pharma prices. Democrats obstructed every chance to do do. Which party wants to allow people to sue gun manufacturers when a criminal uses a stolen one of their guns to kill you?
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If you read the facts of the case, the baker didn't care they were Gay. He's an artist that takes pride in his creations. He refused to bake a cake with sexual overtones on it. He had every right to do so and that's why he won that case. Can a store turn you away because you aren't wearing a shirt? Yes, and they should. A business is covered by the 1st Amendment and it's right to associate with people it chooses to, provided it doesn't discriminate based on protected class laws. Today, these protected classes are lying about why a business refused to do business with them. A business can turn you away for no mask or no vaccine. But firing an employee for refusing to accept a change that came to be after they were hired and have worked well for years, is an entirely different matter. What if they chose to fire long term employees who own a firearm or hunt? Would you say they have a right to do that when both are completely legal and one is a Constitutional right?
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My point exactly. How far down this slippery slope are you willing to go?
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How so?
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Political humor
Grouse replied to Water Rat's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
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What happens the day employers decide you have to get a shot for any other reason that benefits them? Like a sterilization shot so you can't have kids and need to take time off when they're sick? How about a shot that makes you violently ill to alcohol? Or just a shot to make you complacent to the oppressive demands of your employer for lots of overtime without any extra pay? Should employers have this much control over your freedom in exchange for a paycheck? What concessions are they willing to make to their employees? Not many that I'm aware of. It's a slippery slope folks.
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Of course not. They discriminate against white males all the time now, thanks to Affirmative Action and quotas. Plus, many are members of a "protected class" that can do no wrong, except for white males, you know, the "white supremacists". All brought to you by leftist, progressive, Marxist, totalitarian Democrats. Oh, and don't forget how Ivy League universities are allowed to discriminate against Asian Americans with govt approval too.
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Nobody is telling anyone not to get the shot, and they are not criticizing anyone who got it. They are saying do what you want and leave the rest of the people alone. It's the people who don't want the shot that are being attacked by leftists who want them punished, corporations who fear govt reprisal for not mandating the shot, and the govt itself that threatens their freedom of movement and association each and every day. That is tyrannical oppression of those who use their freedom of choice to decide what they personally choose to do in their own life. Their decision is not affecting anyone else, no matter how many fear mongering tactics are pushed to make others think it is. Is this still a free country, or are we only free to do what the govt lets us do? This is not new in America. It's been happening for years. And your thinking has been influence by many things for many years.
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And that particular party was the Democrat party, and it happened 50 or so years ago. There have been laws against discrimination in the US since at least 1968 when the civil rights advocates were all attacking the Democrats for supporting discrimination. Dem. Senator Robert Byrd was even a high ranking member of the KKK. And now, the same party is pushing private industry to ignore the civil rights of everyone in the workplace. They don't discriminate anymore. They've decided we are all slaves to the state.
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Grouse replied to phantom's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
So, you actually are convince Biden is doing a better job as President than Trump did? Care to supply a list of all the great things Biden has done since being ordained POTUS so we can compare accomplishments? -
I don't think anyone ever said not to get the shot. All I've heard is don't make people who don't want it get it. The vaxed folks are the one's demanding the unvaxed be punished and prevented from living their lives.
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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a guide last week for “Inclusive Communication,” cautioning against using words like prisoner, smoker, illegal immigrant, disabled or homeless, which the agency says could imply blame or stigma. The guide’s opening line says, “We must confront the systems and policies that have resulted in the generational injustice that has given rise to health inequities.” The CDC is now about fighting injustice, not disease. The agency says instead of gender-specific pronouns like him or her, use “they,” even when referring to one person. And talk about “parents” or “expectant parents” instead of mothers or fathers. After making the hundreds of language changes the CDC recommends, who has time to defeat COVID-19? The CDC’s got mission confusion. With parts of the U.S. considering more COVID lockdowns, Americans don’t need language lessons on political correctness. They need scientific information on how to reduce the risk of being infected by this virus indoors. That’s key to reopening workplaces and returning to normal. And we certainly don't need the CDC distracted with a phony "gun violence disease".
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Grouse replied to Water Rat's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
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You will have to pardon me if I don't find any study done by the agency that has been pushing vaccines for 19 months, and wants to consider "Gun Violence" a disease, to be credible. Got anything from an objective source?
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Grouse replied to Water Rat's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
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Grouse replied to Water Rat's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
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Please site one source from the overwhelming evidence.
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Grouse replied to phantom's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
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Grouse replied to Water Rat's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
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Grouse replied to Water Rat's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
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Grouse replied to Water Rat's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
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Grouse replied to Water Rat's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
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Afghanistan falls in a week, WTH?
Grouse replied to Gobbler Chaser's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
Some people are doubting this?? The Washington Post reported it and this is from the National Review. The left tells their people not to believe reports from credible sources all the time. That is just an easy way to keep the clueless in line. God forbid they learn to think and ask questions. https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/08/white-house-dodges-on-bombshell-report-that-taliban-offered-u-s-control-of-kabul/