Geno C

oh ok, got ya

you said weapon of choice? i would assume with a 75 yard shot we are talking guns?

clear open shot in the woods not field? and perfectly broadside? because that will play into it also.. im a ling shot guy, lug ad heart. i dont see the point of a head shot, its a low percentage shot. i always think blood trail if the animal doesn't drop in sight and the cleanest fasted way to kill that animal.

Lol!

I think me and you are making the same points here n there but wording it differently... There's things I am agreeing with you on but I don't think your seeing it that way. When anyone talks baiting, the word cwd is quickly thrown out and I'm not so quick to jump on that ban wagon as I am very aware what occures year round in this state all over. Now, I don't want to make this thread about cwd, I was Simply touching on my beleifs on that matter is all whether I'm a scientist or not. And anyone else here, I'm not saying lets bait but if your going to throw down the cwd gauntlet lets be aware of the last known cwd case and how often many people bait. That is all for now.

so you can have multiple email contacts to one cam? it will send those images to say you and phade via email?

repetition... just keep taking the dog outside often to make. if he goes to the bathroom acknowledge it in a good way with the tone of your voice so he knows he did a good thing and keep at it. it is tough being in the winter, i get that. i know its cold but be out there with him around off the leash. clear areas of snow away, if the snow is to deep he might not want to be there in it. i plow areas of snow away for the dogs only because the wife has a 4lb dog and gets cold and doesnt like to go in the deeper snow. my dog will do anything, shes good lol but keep at it

Did you have yours sent through email or text? i can see email being annoying now? imagine looking through so many emails of pics rather just getting them under the same user # for text? i never used one so im not 100% sure how it works but i think id rather a text anyway. what do you prefer?

very true joe lol

because i dont see anyone saying yes go throw feed blocks out or throw corn all over the place and its ok.. i dont see anyone condoning that. A topic like this, although may see it different i think is a good thing. there may be one guy saying hes putting feed down but he also works a deer farm with permits id assume and hope. although i can agree with everyone who stated deer will find a way and its natures way of leveling out capacity, i couldn't agree more... If guys care that much about the health of the herd and i do also, then some should look into late season planting to carry those deer through the winter no matter how easy or hard the winter is..

ive done a lot of reading about CWD and so on... many of what you wrote is news to me, seems to be a more defined line of origin in regards to CWD and i guess i will keep reading into and seeing what i can dig up. However, and heres where there is no pun intended as i do know what you do and i dont have a problem with how people make their money or enjoy their spare time as it is legal. Having said that no matter how you slice it, this disease always seems to catch buzz in relation to deer farms, period. Odss for contracting the deer seem to be VERY high in deer facilities. Now, ill play devils advocate here. If John palmer did not run a deer farm and was simply doing taxidermy work, DO YOU THINK that CWD would have been an issue in 2005? Seems like the susceptibility due to the higher confined concentration of deer led to the cwd in those deer. im not going to agree that this disease was brought about from free range deer, i just wont. the percentage in my eyes are way to small vs where the likely hood of where these diseases are most common and most attributed. And please, again do not take offence, my comments are simply coming from inside and in no way meant to be a stab at you. Just so happens that i did a lot of reading and so fourth on this stuff as well due to many many hunters throwing this word around with little regard to what it is and how it works. I did read somewhere that once a deer contracts CWD the possibility for spreading with bodily fluids is there and also once the deer dies, especially in the wild from CWD that the disease remains with that carcass for quite sometime to come, making the chances for free range deer to contract it very possible. I was imply saying and will continue to say it based on what i read, hear, see and know that corn piles and feed blocks has little impact on CWD in the wild. with the amount of illegal activity going on year round and especially during hunting season, if what the DEC says about CWD and baiting this state would be in a state of emergency in regards to deer hunting and the amount of bait used each year in NYS illegally. and its not... so for some to keep throwing the CWD word around i think need to step off their own land perhaps? and really get to know whats going on in this state in general. its not all blue skies and butterflies, people dont always follow the law. and no im not saying step off your land and walk your neighbors, but go in some state land or watch the amount of pics that flow in this site when tral cam season comes and see how many actually bait, willingly or not.

alls im saying, is sometimes the powers that be dont always have the right info ALL THE time. Or always know whats best for everyone and everything... just like the powers that be for this state and this country. i tend to not believe EVERYTHING im told, i always try to consider the source. even though the source is high and reputable, you want to believe its in the best interest of "_____" BUT, is it??

i thought first CWD case in NY was from a deer facility? no pun, just asking... i cant see that it was a wild deer shot free range that was carrying it? i think just recently they had an investigation to ohio and a few other states from shipped deer from facilities. seems like most cases of CWD originate there. although, there was a recent PA car kill with evidence of CWD in a wild deer... so i hear.

those were just factual notes for ya... im not telling you to believe me and only me are you feelin alright bud? lol maybe get some rest and have at this tomorrow...

they "reluctantly" agreed however agreed NONE THE LESS to spend 170k in feeding programs. thats like you reluctantly pay taxes but do so anyway... whether the state DNR has it posted all over their DNR site or not, looks like that is the plan put in motion. i was just looking into what four season said and appears to carry truth

First detection of CWD the US was in 2002 in 2003 NY DEC initiated part: 189 CWD to reduce the risk of CWD 2005 was the first and LAST that any deer in NYS ever tested positive for CWD and the only deer were 5 captive deer in a breeding facility in Oneida County. 2009: manditory CWD checking in madison and oneida county ENDED. not one case of CWD ever reported since then. CWD came about in states like colarado i believe all originating from deer facilities NOT free range deer. I believe Ohio which is a full bait and supplemental feeding state has never encountered CWD. These diseases come from deer farms, highly concentrated DEER CONTAINED and confined to small pen areas. not piles of corn for free ranging deer... states like ohio should be concerned with CWD IMHO and its not due to the state allowing baiting. Its due to the high volume of imported and exported deer from these deer farms for breeding and shooting purposes.

was just reading this... http://blogs.twincities.com/outdoors/2014/02/17/minnesota-deer-feeding-update-mdha-rallies-volunteers/

he has a face that makes you wanna slap it... hard too...

At around mid night I was getting ready for bed and peaked outside when a few houses down I saw some deer workin in. They were grazing on everything and anything they could. Saw a few of them standing on their hind legs trying to reach high for natural Browse. There was 5, they looked very healthy. I'm sure they are feeding on anything can to keep em going.

I'd shoot him... He'd look good on the wall and taste good too

yes i do remember that deer, what an amazing deer it is. was curious if WNY connected on any..

about 3 here by me.. my parents were saying LI is getting pounded. the weight of snow and ice on the roof down there is a major concern

No thy don't need horns to breed... bucks will breed late cycling does regardless. If a doe cycles those instincts come out again in the bucks and they can and will breed those doe. That episode shows how bucks even after they shed those horns will find ways to fight for breeding rights to breed that doe.

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this supposedly DOES happen. I watched an episode of D&DH and they said a doe can be bred in the season. It is possible that she wont take, its possible she can cycle again January time. She can be bred, come February she wont take and cycle again. Deer have been known to fight over cycling does even with out head gear. I was speaking about this last year around the same time and some thought i was crazy. just last week i have been trying to find the video and post it of that episode but can not find it. i am almost positive it is Season 8 Episode 9 "Hot Doe" they covered all of this and it was VERY interesting stuff... if someone can find it i am pretty sure that was the season and episode