Five Seasons

I don't think so. Anybody shooting 20 minutes before sunrise isn't stopping at 35 if they're doing it to be a bad ass. But those of us who can clearly identify a target at 20 minutes before aren't just going to start flinging arrows in dark. It's an ethics and safety thing.

and nuts to this one Strategy 2.2.3: Establish a firearms season for antlerless deer in mid-September in WMUs where existing harvests are inadequate to achieve population management objectives.

forgot about this good piece of news Additionally, this plan proposes to expand legal deer hunting hours to cover a longer period of daylight, including the dawn and dusk periods when deer are most active. Currently, New York has the most restrictive deer hunting hours in the United States. Whereas deer hunting is lawful in New York only between sunrise and sunset, all other states allow deer hunting ½ hour before sunrise or earlier, or simply specify daylight hours, and 46 of 50 states allow deer hunting until some period (mostly ½ hour) after sunset. Ambient light conditions typically extend 30 minutes or more beyond the technical sunrise and sunset, and other states report similarly positive safety experiences of hunters and non-hunters during these periods as during full daylight

Surprised I didn't see this posted and sorry if it was. Comments accepted until 12/28 https://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/7211.html looks like they're trying to gain full authority to do some stuff they legally can't currently: 1. With respect to deer hunting, statutes should be modified to grant DEC full regulatory authority to: • set deer hunting seasons and regulate methods of take and bag limits in all parts of the state, not just a subset of the state. This would include: o allowing use of firearms to take deer during the regular season and eliminating acreage minimums and special season constraints in Suffolk and Westchester Counties (ECL § 11- 0907), o full authority to regulate crossbow use (ECL § 11-0505), o allowing deer hunting in currently closed areas (e.g., Nassau County and parts of Albany, Erie and Monroe Counties; ECL § 11-0907), o allowing use of firearms to take deer in areas that are currently restricted to bow only; • allow hunters in urban deer control areas to use some techniques that are prohibited under general hunting laws (e.g., bait, lights; ECL § 11-0901); and • set conditions under which hunters can receive some form of compensation for killing deer and can sell venison (ECL § 11-0917). 2. Set uniform minimum hunting age of 12 years. 3. Crossbow Hunting 4. Remove constraints for deer hunters on Long Island. 5. Prohibit wanton waste of harvested game. 6. Remove the prohibition on big game hunting in certain parts of Albany, Erie, Herkimer, and Hamilton Counties: ECL § 11-0907. 7. Allow DEC to regulate buck harvest standards: rescind ECL § 11-0914. 8. Allow Deer Management Permits throughout the Northern Zone. 9. Create tax incentives for landowners to allow public hunting.

Good luck all. Haven’t been in the deer woods since Tuesday evening last week. Wife had some pretty serious hip surgery so I’ve been mom, dad and nurse for a while. She’s doing well and I’m partially glad I had to take a break. I’ve seen the deer woods open up after the first week and when much of the orange army goes home. Could definitely use another deer for the freezer, if not 2 for some sausage. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’m not too far from you and it’s the same round here, if it’s of any comfort. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Why anyone would want a buck they didn’t shoot is beyond me. Yeah some meat I guess but you didn’t earn it, the horns on the wall will always whips we liar back at you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Wild! Love it! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I used to be too when I was younger. Then as my passion for bow grew, gun season became more "deer camp" fun. Usually, I also have a nice buck so it's like extra innings. I enjoy gun for what it is, just as much as I enjoy archery for what it is and I don't think anyone's passion is right or wrong. We all hunt for different reasons. As chef mentioned there's some fatigue. I'm at 20+ sits with a bunch of other crap going on in my life and that early morning alarm clock and bone chilling cold become less appetizing. No matter why and what season you like, it's always important that you don't make it a chore... I guess that was my main point.

same. it can happen in archery too, but I think at some point you're also deciding to take a pretty small deer (sub 110 lbs) and I think many are less likely to do that during archery and more likely during gun. But the added distance with gun is what makes it hard of course.

moog there's no doubt in my mind i'll hunt the stand i planned to hunt this am and see nothing. pull the cams and see a nice shooter was there this am. haha

just once for me, but I doubt there's many on this board who have hunted for any length of time that haven't done it. It happens.

had some stuff happen with the wife's surgery being postponed, purely administrative but annoying none the less. Anyhow, gave me a chance to go out this AM and my heart just isn't in it. Coupled with maybe 1 glass of wine too many and a restless sleep. I'm sure I'm not the only bow hunter that feels this way. I lose my drive during gun. I will admit that it's not normally this early. But I'm careful to balance the line between "driven and determined" and "ruining what should be fun" by making it a chore. So that's my pontification for the day. Going to head out for the afternoon.

my dad did the same last year. Nothing wrong with taking an animal you're going to eat, but it's understandable to be upset at shooting something you didn't intend too or even if you don't mind, to your point misidentifying it.

another thing to remember is that you don't generally just get pulled over without doing something wrong. Sure it's possible he was speeding or had a taillight out, but the fact that they caught a guy transporting potentially illegal deer makes me think someone tipped them off... unless the guy was just a total idiot and had his truckbed exposed.

hoping that was a typo and not Almost Buck Down! let us know

only once in 15+ years of hunting and it was one of the biggest bucks I've seen ready to fight with another buck that most guys would mount. If you hear a snort weeze it's game time with some brutes. I'll add that I added a snort wheeze to my pouch and used it a few years ago after a bedded down buck wouldn't move no matter how much I grunted and bleated. Hit the wheeze and he stood right up and took one in the boiler maker. I think they're a great last resort hail mary. In fact, last night walking to my truck through an orchard I hit up 3 sets of eyes glowing in my headlamp. I grunted and grunted and they even started to slowly walk towards me. Not wanting to spook them, at about 25 yards I hit the wheeze and they bolted like someone hit them with a hot poker.

love it! congrats to him. In our camp someone always shoots a nice buck on opening day and there's always a smaller one too. Always good fun ribbing and the guy getting ribbed is usually too happy and drunk to care!

the written note for transport isn't something I've heard of commonly mentioned. Too lazy to look it up, but even with 7 different tags and signatures, i'm sure the DEC would be anxious to validate.

it's also possible he was an outfitter, or part of a deer camp and he lived closest to the butcher. Heck could even be some high fence turkey shoot and the other guys flew home and left him the meat. We always expect the worst, but it's not always the case... alas sometimes it is.

i forgot about that track. What was the outcome again?

Great buck TF! Congrats! Who took his grandson?

Quieter with posting is what I meant. Just bustin balls man. Good luck. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Odd. I’d just trim a little. We overthink meat sometimes and often if it smells and looks good there shouldn’t be a concern. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk