Five Seasons

seems quiet on the forum, but the weather is perfect here. I'm probably good for 1 more hurrah this weekend. Good luck tomorrow.

I think you're off on the 99%. Many will take longer shots with a crossbow then they will with a compound and there will be more gun hunters that are now first time "archery" hunters who may not be as disciplined as you and most of us on this board. My guess is that it's more like 70% of crossbow hunters will hunt the same way they did or would with a compound. Picking nits I know, but I think it's naïve to think only 1% would change.

you crack me up man. you can justify it all you want, but "some like to say it's poaching". It's the literal definition of poaching. "some like to take care of what's yours" And for the 15th time in this thread, IT'S NOT YOURS. GAME IS THE PROPERTY OF THE PEOPLE, NOT THE F'N LAND OWNER. Jesus, stop trying to dress it up. You've been pretty good so far about just being honest with how you and your buddies feel, but the "times are tough for my buddies with thousands of acres" and "I'm rebelling against the gov't" shit is just sad. You wanna hunt with a crossbow and you're going to do it regardless of the law. Just be done with it there and stop trying to justify it.

for discussions sakes though, if you could wave a magic wand, would you stop the slaughtering?

Well they lay their taxes and times are tough, so let them mow em all down! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 bucks came in last. So I’m total that’s 5 or 6 deer and no turkeys lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Some hens showed up to my west and got pretty close but no gobbles. Then this guy. I took some snap videos when he got within like 10 yards lol, but those don’t save. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

But these people that need to get by can afford $15k in taxes and not $70 in tags. You’ve lost me man. Is it political disobedience or poverty? Or just an excuse we’re using to justify poaching? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

A mulch kit helps and when the grass is high sometimes I’ll have to mow on 2.5 and go over a few spots again at 3. It’s usually only early spring though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’m in as well. Not a yelp or gobble which doesn’t shock me this late in the season. Still, my first morning not hearing some vocals. Hunted my developing food plot to save a 20min walk to where I planned to hunt and I hope that doesn’t bite me. It is absolutely beautiful though. Cool and calm. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

so to be clear, because you seem to be just slinging out reasons on why it's ok to poach. If I understand this correctly, and apparently I have trouble reading. More people are going to poach now because of democrats and their policies? That a non-full inclusive crossbow policy and other liberal policies is going to cause a revolution and poaching epedemic?

hey just because I blow my money on strippers and blow doesn't mean I don't work hard! haha

the deer are not the property of the land owner. game belong to us all, i guess you didn't read anything i posted earlier regarding our model, but it's like i'm talking to a rock at this point but i can't help myself so let me throw this out at you Recently on a podcast there was a discussion on land access. A gentleman in his 80's wanted the state to put in more access roads so that more land was more accessible to people who were older or disabled. Another man in his 80's stood up and said "F that". I loved being able to access those hard to reach places when I was younger because they were truly special. They were so off grid that there were less hunters and the experience more special because of it. And damn if we should change what was special for him because he can no longer enjoy it and therefore ruin it for the next generation who is in their prime and there for them to enjoy. I'll remind you that I have for many years promoted crossbows for the disabled and elderly, but I thought that the above was an interesting exchange.

was a bad year to buy a brush cutter and mow an orchard lol

so now it's not about the price of meat, but it's because they have to pay 10-15 grand in taxes, so they should be able to do as you please? Which one is it? Poor people sympathy or rich people rights? Can these guys host their own dangerous games too because of those taxes? What level of taxes does one need to pay to just "disregard the lasw"? 15k is nothing compared to what some of us pay btw.

the state's shitty policies with criminals, guns, social programs, covid etc. have nothing to do with deer regulations. One issue or gripe with a law doesn't mean you can disregard others. "Sorry officer I looted this liquor store because I was mad that a cop shot a black man"... that doesn't slide with most of us right? Point again, we all know poaching happens. Most of us might look the other way here and there for the right guy down on his luck trying to put meat on the table, but that is rare in NY. Saying it's ok on a public forum is different. Dudes in africa are super poor, so who cares if they're poaching rhinos for money right? bear gall bladders can make a poor man rich too. What if that poached buck was a trophy? What if they trespassed on your land to poach that doe? The list goes on and on and on.

I've had birds fly down as late as 7. Of the few birds I've killed off the roost in my neck of the woods they all flew down shortly after 5. Not everyone has an hour drive an hour hike. Get up, drink some coffee and head out. PS there's no reason to throw shade at hunters who aren't having a killer season. We all hunt for different reasons.

unsurprisingly you're still confused by what triggered me with your posts. You're condoning and even promoting it like it's ok. You also referenced multi people with large tracks of amazing land. I highly doubt that any of those folks are hurting for coin. You act like you're robin hood stealing from the rich to give to the poor, but you're more like King Richard and just want to do as you please. Game laws are in place because we almost wiped out most of our game species with market hunting. That's a fact and not a debate. We created the north american model of conservation so that we could preserve these species to hunt. And not for just you and I, but our children's children. Also fact. So, sure you can be mad at the government, I'm on that list with you, but because meat costs a little more does not mean we all just start whacking and stacking deer without any regard to conservation. It may be to this date the single handily most irresponsible idea ever shared on this forum. Ask any public land hunter or small property hunter how they'd feel if the deer disappeared because "well the poor gotta eat". I challenge each and every one of you to really think how'd you feel come fall to find most of the deer gone on your hunting grounds. Would you really, truly be ok with it? Would you have rather donated some meat to the hungry family or maybe pitched in to buy groceries? Cause guess what, if it's as bad as ole sperm collector here says it is, those deer won't be plenty come fall and if you heard shooting all summer long and were ok with it because the price of meat is high... well that's on you.

everything of mine has been in for a while now. Lost a few bean plants for no reason that I can understand as we haven't had any frost and 4 of them are thriving. Also a few cukes and a squash so I started a few more and then mixed up the tags in addition to some zucchini so i played Russian roulette with some of my beds haha.

3rd mow!? I think I'm on 7 or 8 lol. Nice looking place man.

home phone? what are you 50?

I'm going out tomorrow morning i dont care if i get to bed late or sleep poorly, i'm making it happen. Might be the 4th and final of the year, which would put me at the lowest number of sits since I started chasing birds 10 or so years ago.

haha this property is old farm land. It's either orchard or very thick shit. There is a stand of pines on one section just south of this camera. The cam is setup near a field, but has some old growth and is one of the only places where it's a little open, which makes it a nice place for a blind where You can actually get some shots without having to cut shooting lanes.

don't forget your time when you're factoring in cost. Time isn't free and you could be earning money elsewhere vs sitting in a tree.