Four Season Whitetail's

Bubba they are still gettin them out of there. I know of 2 ten pointers taken off the marshall road and a 136in 11 point taken on the backside from going in with canoe's. I hear ya on the hats... They just keep comin!! Its gettin kinda scary at night around the edwardsville area!!!!

There is some great hunting up around coles creek area.The deer are thick in places and sparce in others. If you want to travel a bit there is some awesome hunting up on fish creek wildlife area. Its big country with swamps and some huge bucks taken out of there. I am from Ogdensburg and all those areas are my old stomping grounds!!! To top it off there is world class fishing,Ducks and geese to dream about and lots of state land that has great hunting.

Dave i do raise whitetails and please read my last post as to where and how cwd came to being. A guy with deer..Yes..Did it come from his penned deer... Yes.. Was it brought into his herd...Yes.. From a deer he brought in from out west and was very sloppy with his waste from the deer mounted. He was a very sloppy taxidermist with the waste and also had poor upkeep of his farm and the deer escaped. This info i recieved from inside the deer world. As far as deer behind fences ever getting cwd or tb...It wont happen unless laws are broken and someone brings a deer into ny state without proper permits!!! I can never stop laughing from the stories people start about pen deer being sick and transmitting some kind of bug to the wild deer.Like i said our deer are in better shape because of all the testing we have to go through. We have to go through hoops to bring in new bloodlines into the state but when its all said and done...We know our deer are clean!!!

Good answer joe and to add to it our case of cwd came from out west and was brought into ny state by a deer farm that was a taxidermist. That is the reason every deer farm in the country has cleaner animals than there is in the wild. Every farm is held to the upmost testing known to man. We have to cwd test on dead animals, We have to be tb tested every three years and we have a herd inventory done by the state to insure that all animals are accounted for!! Trust me when i say ny state has our best intrests in mind when it comes to the deer farming part. Ny state is the hardest state in the country to get any new deer into. The guy that had deer was very sloppy with his taxidermy animals and with his deer he kept for his visual to mount deer. He let them in contact with cwd material and he let them escape his farm. I would go out on a limb and say you will never see cwd in ny again but if it does it wont be from a deer farm!!!!! Steve sorry for the kinda cursing but sometimes people just dont have a clue what their words( which are totally false) can do to others!!!!

You know what really gets me???? Some people can get on a public site and talk about something that they show they know jacksh!t about. You guys that talk about the cause of cwd and where cwd came from and how it came to being in ny state really should read up on some info before you make a dipsh!t of yurself to all that read these fourms!!!!!!

They are all up here in my soybean fields. I have never seen this many up here this late in the season. I am sure its the warm weather and the open lakes in our area. No ice for ice fishin, no snow for the sleds and the geese are everywhere. This weather pattern sure is messed up.... They are callin for 1 to 2 feet of snow sunday night into monday so the geese might be off the fields soon!!!

Mabey not!!! You want to make sure there is good access to the land also. Not just for you or now but forever. After you take the hayfield out it is a small area. I would take possesion of the hayfield back and plant corn or something to draw the deer in and hope they bed close to their feed. I like corn and 2 acres will last them along time and whatever is left over in the spring is a great place to wack a struttin tom!!!!

Its even harder when you spent 24 hours a day with these great animals. We have had to put a couple down here on the farm and it is never easy. I think doc hit it best as mother nature is never nice when dealing the death blow to these animals. We still should always do our best to get a clean kill... We owe them that!!!!

Ding.Ding. Round 1

The most challenging way to kill a whitetail in ny would be to let him grow to atleast 3years of age and then harvest him with any legal means you would like!!!!

Welcome in..This is a great site to get some hunting info.There is alot of bickering here at times.Its a great place to get all the new laws and whats going on in the hunting world!! Ask alot of questions and have thick skin.This site will help you nail that first buck!!

And by all means get that ground blind brushed up or get it tucked into some cover so it doesnt stick out as much. Even though its camo i think by not blending them in with their suroundings they do get noticed by the local wildlife!!!!

LOL Good point!!!

I leave ours in all year!!! 14 loc-ons and 6 ladders... Not an easy chore to take out every year!!! I buy the cheap $35 dollar loc ons at dicks and i replace them every few years when they start showing wear...What i also make sure i do i loosen the straps on the stands to allow for the tree to grow.. That will save the straps from stretchin out on them... They dont use chains anymore!!

Good luck tug.I just bought a 2012 ram(does that thing have a hemi....Oh Hell yea) this week. Traded my 2008 in. Could not turn down the rebates.. Like 9 grand off sticker...With 24 miles on it!!! To bad you were not up my way a little closer.. I am a ny state inspector and we have a little service station up here. I could probably help ya out with that inspection problem!!! Good luck with yur new wheels!!!!

We shoot big old does here every year!! We way them. 136,149,142,131 were the heavy ones this year. I think its pretty simple why most big girls dont get taken!!! They are the smartest deer in the woods. I mentioned in another post about last weekend,I saw so many huge big old does on letchworth it was unreal. Either alot of the big girls like the bottom of the gorge or they have a cave some where that they all meet at for the first 3 weeks of the season!!

Wow do you guys really think you need 3 months to hunt.. It is a long time to chase them around in a straight period. Mabey some breaks in there somewhere would let thm calm down some. You guys want muzzle into end of dec???? I have seen places in years of snow that have one trail running from bed to feed.. 1-2-3 feet of snow and you could just wipe out a section of woods.. I know some will say wont or dont happen....It does here... I have seen fawns come across fields when all you see is their heads above the snow...They have a hard enough time with the freaking yotes late in the season..

I think the seasons are to long as it is. I would rather see a break in the action!!! Have bow season....couple weeks off....Have rifle/shotgun season...couple weeks off Have late bow/muzzle...end of season. We chase those things around for like almost 3 months up north. Really a season after christmas...That would kill all kinds of bucks by guys using either sex tags. I guess if it was bucks only it might work but im sure not in all areas.

Oh how true. Adult does are probably the hardest deer in the woods to harvest. Thats one of the biggest reason,if not the biggest reason that you would never wipe out a herd in any givin area. I took the smokepole to letchworth this weekend and could not believe the amount of adult does that i saw. I said early in the year that the numbers are down on the park and i stick by that but trust me when i say there are still a good number of deer in the areas i hunt on the park.The new bow only area on the mt morris end of the park is teaming with adult doe's!! Thats good newz!!!

Kind of crazy to open the season that early down there in my opinion. We open way to early up here also with a sept 27th opening with last years tags and then 2 weeks of bow and then 8 weeks of gun season's. Looks like seasons will be that long down there soon also.

I saw 3 different bucks on letchworth this weekend that only had one side still on but then i saw a 130 class buck runnin the bottom with both sides still hangin on!!!!!

Funny how those pics just keep gettin thrown around!!!

Thanks dave,I know alot of people have mixed feelings about deer behind fences. My plan is to raise breeder bucks,sell bred does,sell semen and hopefully start a scent herd.There is no better a feeling than to interact with 200 and 300 inch whitetail bucks and sitting on a 5 gallon bucke in the doe and fawn pens giving treats and scratchin ears!! Whitetails are just another livestock in the farming world.I cant think of a better animal i would rather than spend time with all day every day.

I would like to know what you think the (other stuff)is.. I see the pics that were posted and i know of the farm.In todays deer world those bucks are on the small size. You went to these peoples farm,Did you ask them about genitics or what they feed their deer?? Im sure they would have told you. Believe it or not these deer are made by years of breeding certin lines and certin looks and then crossing those genes with other line or look. You guys amaze me of all the info that you THINK you know when most have never been to a farm or have ever seen how it is done. I breed my own deer,I feed my own deer and i raise my own deer. There is no special powder that makes them grow and like it or not it is 90% genitics that grow my 200 inch deer every year.As far as adult wild bucks, stress might have a little to do with their growth but i would say very little.Good food,great blood runnin through their veins and a little age,there is no way they cant grow big..Even in ny state!!!

Yes they get care if needed as any livestock would. Yes they have low level of stress for the most part. The feed they get on my farm is the same feed most deer get in the wild. They get minerals mixed in the feed because ny has low levels in the soil. Whole and cracked corn.soybeans and soybean meal. 22% Alpalpa,clover hay and genitics is what grows antlers.You can give a deer all the best feed it could ever eat and without genitics you will never have a trophy. Give a great bloodlined deer lower end feed and you will still get a great trophy. Give bucks in the wild some time to get some age and they will take care of their own stress levels and alot of ny state has plenty of food except mabey the adk's. We have seen some of the bucks taken in ny so we know there is good genitics in most parts of the state. They just need some time to shine!!!