steve863

Yes, if you hold and aim properly, you can shoot well past that distance, and have a WAY better chance of putting game down for keeps compared to a bow which is what's most important to me. That is why a rifle will forever be my choice weapon to hunt with. You boys can continue to argue about compound bows, x-bows, and whatever you want. All of them are from from primitive in my opinion. If you guys want to shell out the big sums of money for these weapons that can kill no further than 30 yards, knock yourselves out!! I will stick to my rifle that would cost less if I needed to replace it, yet is more effective. In the meantime I don't need to get into silly arguments of which (high tech, modern) bow should be legal or not to hunt with!

When I compare my almost 30 year old bolt action rifle and scope, to todays modern compound bow with fiber optic sights, drop away rests, high let off, carbon fiber arrows and various other bells and whistles, I think my rifle gets the nod as being the more primitive weapon.

I sure hope his father feels that way. Hell, he can't give up a stinking deer stand to his kid, I have a hard time picturing him giving up his life for him.

Don't know, but his belly button looks like the tiny nubs on a button buck. I guess he'd be illegal to shoot. LOL

OK, so now you need to convince the state to lower the driving age for your kid, too!! Give me a break. You may think he's great at all these things at age 9, and he very well may be, but society is not going to take your word on this. Sorry, but that's the way it goes. Some 9 year olds have higher IQ's than 30 year olds. Do we allow them to do everything a 30 year old is allowed to?? No way, and rightfully so.

Yeah, like that poacher father that the poor dude talked about on the other thread? Many parents have their heads up their butts, and wouldn't know when to buy a kid a new pair of socks or know what time the kid needs to report to school. I have little faith to leave it up to ALL parents to know when the kid is ready. This is the reason why general age requirements are put in place.

It's one thing making a shot and then having an animal lying there dead. But it's a whole different scene having an animal flopping around with a spine shot. As adults us hunters should be able to handle this scene, but to a child that is too young to fully understand things this may night be a pleasant image, and unpleasant images are what stand out most to some. I think in most cases a 5 year old may have a harder time with such a scene than a 12 year old would. That is why age requirements are implemented, and in general they are not a bad thing. Some parents claim that they know their child would be ready to hunt, but that is their opinion only. They very well may be, but they also may not. Just as with driving. Maybe there are 12 year olds that could drive better than 20 year old, but would we be comfortable letting ALL 12 year olds behind the wheel?? A line has to be drawn somewhere in my opinion.

Maybe if you hang the deer by its head and then after you make a quick slit in it's stomach, you can have this hoist bounce it up and down until the guts fall out of it? Just looking out for you fellas and trying to make your lives easier. LOL

I could carry what some of them kill under my hat, so to spend thousands for a 4 wheeler and then find a place to store it the rest of the year makes mighty little sense to me. For less than $100 one can buy one of those game carts that actually do a pretty good job, if the dragging is too strenuous for someone.

I recall when NO one had 4 wheelers. You parked your vehicle and then went about it on foot. If you shot something, then you dragged it back on FOOT. Now it seems that a 4 wheeler is required hunting equipment. I say BS to that. I don't have one and will not be buying one any time soon. If I can't haul my butt to my stand, then I will hang up my coat and gun and take up a less strenuous activity.

Yes it is, but I think those that take the time to post to a forum, in general might be more dedicated to the sport. I would think those more dedicated would know how to shoot a bow better than the run of the mill guy also. So if the more dedicated ones screw up often, what should I expect from everyone else out there??

No. I don't name names.

No one said deer can't be killed with a light draw bow. What I said is that in general it is easier to screw up with ANY bow compared to a firearm. Just read this forum and you will see how many people screw up with bows. And this forum is just a very SMALL sample of the bowhunters out there.

What don't you understand? Will a light draw bow penetrate as well as a heavier one at different yardage and angles? Look, I'm not here to argue with you, only giving opinions as to why I would prefer starting a kid with a firearm over a bow. If you thought everyone would agree with you about starting a 9 year old deer hunting with a bow, you were wrong I'm afraid.

Because it's easier to screw up with a bow in my opinion. With a light draw bow, and a less than perfect hold, that aim behind the shoulder can end up hitting the shoulder bone, and the deer will most likely get away wounded. Do the same with a rifle or shotgun, and the deer will be going down, and more than likely OUT! And if an adult who is hunting with the kid is also carrying a firearm, he might be able to dispatch a poorly shot deer if it's trying to get away. Not as likely to do the same with a bow if the deer gets passed 50 yards or so. If anything will discourage a kid from hunting it's NOT recovering their first deer, thus I believe it's wiser to have them start with a firearm.

I will NEVER understand why NYS and many others think that bowhunting is OK at an earlier age than gun hunting? My honest opinion is that a 9 or 10 year old is too young to hunt with a bow. Hell, we have people way older than that and all they manage to do with a bow is stick a deer and then have it run off wounded. I would not have any more confidence in a 10 year old, that's for sure. Have them hunt supervised with a firearm for a couple of seasons, and then they can pick up a bow if they wish.

Because NO one other than very anti-gun candidates have even the slightest chance of getting elected in NYC.

He's nothing to look forward to, but I figure if Bloomberg didn't ban firearms completely in NYC in 12 years, this guy might not either.

All the meat is in Geno's biceps. LOL

There you have it. No way in hell that Bloomberg and Kelly's finest would let you slide these days!! A freaking sharp pencil is illegal in NYC.

These days I don't think you'd get only a warning if a cop actually saw you shooting a bow, even if it was in an abandoned lot or something. I have little doubt that you'd get fined or arrested and have the bow confiscated. Who would be willing to defend you in NYC?? NO one.

I don't think they are considered firearms in NYC. I tried checking into this just last week, after my brother saw a young woman, probably in her late teens, carrying a strung, uncased recurve bow on the NYC subway! I actually think you can walk around with one uncased in NYC! I guess she could get away with it, since she was a woman, but I would have NO doubt that if a man tried doing the same, he'd get stopped and questioned if a cop happened to see him carrying a bow wide open like that. Elmo, you can try it and let us know what happens??

I think any wife with a newborn child would get mighty pissed (and rightfully so) if all her husband thought about was how he could avoid helping out and how he could go hunting instead. A good husband and father gives priority to his wife and child. Hunting is not as important, actually it's way down on the list in the scheme of what should be important in life.

Maybe yes, maybe no. If I don't see deer from a stand, I go after them on foot. I don't consider hunting a science. I just hunt with my eyes and ears and the weapon of my choosing. Has worked out OK for me over the years.

Yeah, and what does this have to do with what's being discussed here in this thread in October? I don't think I posted anything at all from January to late June on this forum. This thread interested me enough to chime in. I certainly don't get the same urge on the threads discussing deer beds. LOL