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Posts posted by nybuckboy
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great story
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They will be more tentative for sure but as was stated - it really depends on the pressure in the area. In less pressured areas, they will for the most part go back to normal. If the rut is still on, the bucks will still be dumb but maybe not as dumb. If there is a hot doe not ready to be bred she will lead him all over the place and thus your chance to kill him is good. In my area I noticed on Sunday some scrapes had fresh dirt kicked on the snow so perhaps it really hasn't broke open yet for me and will only get better. I saw lots of doe, some little bucks but no mature bucks. I'm hoping this coming weekend the bigger boys are in the picture.
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really great buck. just knowing hes around will keep you planted for the day.
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really great buck. just knowing hes around will keep you planted for the day.
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. I was about to and shoot IT, but was so caught off guard by what was happening I just watched them...Glad I did.
"Woods Porno"
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congrats and hats off to you for practicing qdm
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May be the nature of bleat. I try to read as much as I can from biologists in the field. Long bleats may be distressed calls
A good thought here. Maybe I'll try some short bleat calls like "hey where are you calls" Thanks.
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Does anyone feel they sometimes have a tendency to use calls more then they should and why? Sometimes when things are too quiet I do a 2 long doe bleats and every once in a while I'll throw out a grunt or two. In your opinion, can you over call?
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great story... great buck... good job!
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I'm in a stand with no bow hanger. Hand was getting tired and remembered my harness has a "bow hanger" figure I'll check it out. Fiddle around with it. Decide I don't like it. Retrieving bow and look up to see a buck stop behind a bush looking at me through it at about 40 yds. Stared me down and took off.
Always carry one of these. You can wrap around a branch and just crimp the last inch in a V to hold the cam.
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Things must be changing here in 7M as a large active scrape that was opened about 2 weeks ago has not had a pic from it in 4 days. I have noticed I am seeing single does out and about and just 2 weeks ago they were all together, 3 or more in a group. The bucks must be chasing the doe all over and have separated the groups. I/m thinking some estrous hanging is in order.
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Here is something I copied about the rut. Here is the link too: http://www.prohuntersjournal.com/article/?a=27
The 2014 RUT
Strategies, Tactics, and Timing Tips To Help You Better Hunt All Phases of the RutSean McCosh (DuckBuckGoose) - PHJ ProStaff - Cincinnati, OH
As most hunters will agree, there is no better time to hunt deer than just before or during "the rut". What some hunters don't fully understand though, is that the rut has several phases - each of which can be more successfully hunted the better you understand them. In this article we will get right to the point and provide the most important things you need be aware of during each phase of the rut, and some average dates when these rut phases typically occur in the Northern and Mid-Western states. Please note that these dates will vary from year-to-year and region to region - so DO NOT use the dates provided this article as a replacement for scouting. You need to be in the field, or at least be in touch with buddies who are, to accurately determine when the initial rut phases begin in your area.
Also, make sure to keep notes of what you see in your ProHuntersJournal.com online hunting Journal. You will be amazed at how keeping good records will help you recognize the different phases and be more accurate at predicting the timing of them from year to year. Click here to set up your free online hunting journal now.
Phase: PRE-RUT
Average Dates: October 18 - November 2
Scouting Tactics: Scout food sources like Oak trees/acorns, fruit trees, cut corn, alphalpha and other mast which is likely to attract deer. Look for rubs and scrapes on the edges of these areas. Some scrapes may still be fairly faint in the earlier parts of the pre-rut.
Best Communication Tactics:
Grunting: grunting is perhaps the best communication method at this time.
Decoy: As bucks have rising testosterone levels at this time they are starting to check feeding sites for the first hot doe. Try a decoy in one of these areas and you might get a good shot.
Rattling: Bachelor groups may start establishing dominance/heirarchy at this time through sparring. Rattling during the pre-rut is more likely to attract subordinate bucks than the more mature bucks.
Important Notes: During this pre-rut you may start to see the first signs of rutting activity as a small percent (around 10%) of does come into estrus around the pre-rut moon, but that typically drops off quickly. Older does sometimes breed several weeks ahead of other does and bucks may start seeking them out at this time. Start looking for rubs and scrapes, especially towards the end of the pre-rut. These signs are left by bucks to let the does know that he is nearby and will be ready to give them some lovin' when they are ready...and that he'll be back soon.
Phase: SEEKING AND CHASING
Average Dates: November 3-12
Scouting Tactics: Look for fresh rubs and rub lines. If you find a hot one, hunt it as soon as possible.
Best Communication Tactics:
Grunting: If you're in a low pressure hunting area, grunting may be a great option during seeking and chasing. If you're in a high-pressure area however, it may be best to not do any calling at all.
Decoy: Intently looking for hot does, bucks can respond well to decoys during this phase.
Rattling: As testosterone levels in bucks are high at this time, they're more likely to pick a fight, or check out and challenge other sparing bucks to show their dominance. Rattling works best in areas with higher buck to doe ratios. In areas with low buck to doe ratios rattling should be used sparingly or not at all because bucks typically don't need to fight to find hot does.
Important Notes: Scrapes that were being checked frequently just a week or two ago are starting to be ignored and become less relevant, as bucks are starting to pursue does that are coming into estrous. They may, however start aggressively rubbing trees to vent their pent-up energy and show off their self-perceived dominance to other bucks. If you find one of these rubs during the late pre-rut, hunt it as soon as possible. If you're hunting an area that doesn't get a lot of pressure, you can feel free to grunt, snort-wheeze or doe bleat fairly aggressively. Be ready when you do. If you hunt a more pressured area, you'll want to use calling techniques more sparingly.
During this phase, bucks will start checking the does' scent and chase them aggressively. Find the does at this time and you're more likely to find the bucks. Younger bucks will travel the more prominent deer trails from doe area to doe area. Mature bucks will still follow heavier cover between doe areas (creek bottoms, ditches, strips of thick cover). Look for one of these areas with fresh tracks to find the big boys.
Phase: PEAK BREEDING
Average Dates: November 13 - November 24
Scouting Tactics: Look for scrapes and rub lines and travel corridors between doe bedding areas. Get on stand and hunt all day.
Best Communication Tactics:
Rattling: During the actual rut most fighting is between dominant rivals of more equal stature and could scare off more subordinate bucks.
Grunting: Aggressive calling works well at this time, if hunting a low-pressure area.
Doe Bleat: Doe bleats work well at this time since bucks are aggressively looking for hot does.
Estrous Doe Lures: Estrous scents can work well at this time if used properly. Try using a drag-rag and making a figure-8 trail, placing your stand or blind at the apex. Trolling bucks may get wind of your trail and follow it right to your stand site. During the final day or two of the rut, try hunting thicker cover in or near a bucks core area again. They'll often return to these areas to recover after a very intense few weeks of chasing and breeding.
Important Notes: During peak breeding, bucks are looking to pair up with a hot doe and may be "hunkered down" with her during her 24-36 hour breeding cycle. During this time the woods may seem to quiet down. But don't be fooled, this is still a great time to be in the stand all day long. That's because big bucks will move at mid-day as they leave the doe they've just bred and seek out another that is just coming into estrous.
Phase: POST RUT & SECONDARY RUT
Average Dates: November 25-December 15
Scouting Tactics: During the post rut, hunt food sources next to thick cover. Bucks will be looking to feed in these areas to get their strength back after peak breeding.
Best Communication Tactics:
Doe Bleats & Estrous Scents: With the primary rut over, bucks are less likely to respond to aggressive grunts, tending grunts or rattling. However, as long as a buck is carrying his antlers we know his testosterone levels are still elevated, so calling with doe bleats and strategically using estrous scents can still work in your favor.
Important Notes: After they've had a few weeks to rest and feed in remote, heavy-cover areas, bucks will start to move again during the post-rut to look for younger does that didn't breed and are coming into heat. About 28 days after the peak rut, the 10%-20% of does, the ones that didn't get bred during their first estrous cycle, will become "hot" again. Find the does, particularly the younger does that are more likely to be coming into estrous late. If you find them, bucks will usually follow. This is a good time to set up near staging zones at doe bedding areas or brush covered field edges.
The post rut is the same as the peak-breeding phase in many ways, although it is much less intense and bucks are less aggressive. At this time bucks may still be roaming about and checking doe feeding and bedding areas to find the last un-bred doe. If you haven't filled your tag yet, stay the course. This is still a pretty good time to hunt.
Archery hunters may feel more hunting pressure once they get into early December, as this is the time when gun season begins in many Northern and mid-western states. If you hunt at this time be sure to wear blaze orange and be cautious of gun hunters. An upside to the gun season for all hunters is that the extra pressure can sometimes keep bucks on the move as they flee gun hunters who are moving about the woods.
For more tips and tactics for hunting the late season check the article 12 Tactics for Winter Whitetails.
By becoming more familiar with the distinct phases of the rut and changing your tactics accordingly, you will improve your odds of taking a big buck this year. If you haven't registered and set up your own online hunting journal yet, you may want to do so now. It will help you figure out the phases of the rut this year and in the years to come.
Good luck this fall shoot straight!- See more at: http://www.prohuntersjournal.com/article/?a=27#sthash.f6hGSuj6.dpuf
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A good hand pouch is worth very penny you spend. I never leave home w/o it. When it gets really cold I use the warmers inside it. Another thing that works well is a wool glove like from an army navy store (black or green) and the light camp archery glove over it.
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probably like a Deer Dander spray. I've used this and must say I have does at the foot of the stand
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just started to see scrape activity. Not the 3 ft size or anything, more like the buck came by once or twice so far. I have seen some some good rubbing last weekend and the scraping has come since then.
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congrats... I bet he is a fighter by the looks of him.
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rule of thumb... gut shot - 8 hours and he will only go 75 yards. Just take note of the direction and you'll find him. When he lays down the first time he will die right there if he isn't pushed.
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Deer shouldn't be bothered by traffic on the roads. I'd be more worried about walking through the woods and fields possibly kicking out bedding deer.
Yep!!!!
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I actually just called the DEC and spoke with an officer who stated to me this: If the landowner wants to file a complaint of this trespasser then this person will be issued a ticket to appear in court and can be fined. He also stated that if the person is on the property and you call the DEC and the officer comes to the property to meet both of you there, then a ticket can be issued on the spot if you want to press charges. He also stated that if you get a back tag number or vehicle license number, description of vehicle and a picture of vehicle is even better then they can use that to issue a ticket if you press charges. I also asked him if this was something new and he said no it has always been that way.
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I heard from someone yesterday and do not know how valid this is but was told that if you have a trespasser on your property and you call the DEC they will come and give the person a ticket and fine and they must pay the landowner/land leaser the fine personally. Something like a ticket that has to be paid by a date or they can be arrested. Any body know anything about this or is it BS?
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good job son!
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I use a dremel and etch my name and phone on it
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Like Augusta or Oriskany Falls area. It's all good hunting up through there.
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I hear some say that you never want to use estrous til first week of Nov but I can't help but wonder... does a buck look at his calendar if it's mid Oct and say to himself... hmmm it's a month early OR does he say it smell like it and comes in to check it out. I think if you hung the real stuff, fresh from a deer farm not some bottled up from Gander from who knows when a mature buck if he whiffed it would come in on a string. Your thoughts?
How many treestand is enough?
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Like many have said it depends on the acreage but my thoughts are this. If you have a couple of good runs through your property, on each run should be a stand for prevailing winds and should have a stand on each end of the property. In addition - for the days when winds are different there should be a stand that could be used.