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The deer was found like 3 weeks after being shot... If the story the OP gave us was true and it was 80 yds from where they lost blood chances are it was dead within a 24 hours. The cape would've been LONG gone. The hide starts slipping after a few days. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

I also have a BAR Longtrac stalker in 30-06. It too shoots around 1.5", I do like the gun a lot but I'm not in love with it either, if the trigger were adjustable or more crisp I would probably never put it down but its spongy and long compared to my bolt guns but then again I've never handled a semi that had a trigger I loved. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Yes it is legal providing you use the correct shot size. And yes you can get a good spread, especially at the close range turkeys should be shot at.Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Nobody is saying we want LOTS of coyotes, just don't think having coyotes around is such a detrimental natural disaster which you proclaim. Maybe we should start killing off owls, hawks and all other birds of prey because grouse numbers have shrunk in recent decades, where does it end? There are so many changes to technology (hunting) and landscape and urban sprawl and the list goes on that you can't single handedly point a finger and say "Coyotes are the root of all wildlife issues in NY." Hunters take on average what? Like 600,000 deer every fall? Not to mention cars, disease, winters, poaching. Humans kill the vast majority of deer in this state, I think we can spare a few here and there for the animals that depend on them for survival. There's no benefit to human greed in nature. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Perhaps the DEC would like to know your tactics for controlling the coyote population. With your wealth of coyote extermination powers and total disregard for laws I'm surprised there's a coyote left in the state. I wonder how many other animals you killed with your poison... Hawks, maybe an eagle, fox, skunks, coons etc... Keep going I'm interested in your other illegal activities also. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

I would feel safe saying 3.5, and wouldn't be surprised in the least if he is 4.5. That's not a 2 yr old deer for sure. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Most people think there is a deer shortage yet they spend every minute they get trying to kill one during deer season, yet there is a coyote overload apparently and very few hunt them... So all of the studies done are wrong and your "studies" of which you have no facts or proof are in some way correct? Makes sense...Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

I didn't say its impossible, I said its rare. I'm basing my opinion off of facts that have been proven through scientific studies that were not anti hunting groups I'm quite certain. But you're right, these animals should know better than to try to survive to better serve your hunting pleasures... I suggest you enlighten yourself with FACTS, not scuttlebutt around the local diner.Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

I agree that people way overestimate coyote populations, they hear 2 or 3 and swear there are 40 of them, they see coyote tracks on the snow (coyotes travel far and wide), they reach for a reason to blame "dwindling" deer numbers... First off if you feel that way then ask yourself, "Am I doing anything to address the problem?" I coyotes hunt quite a lot in the winter and I have NEVER come across a fellow coyote hunter/trapper. I love coyote hunting and i take every one that gives me the opportunity but i don't begrudge them for existing. Secondly some people seem to HATE coyotes for some unknown reason, is it because they are too smart for you to kill? Is it because they take a few deer a year in order to survive? Are we as hunters in any way, shape or form more entitled to these deer than the animals that depend on the occasional deer for survival? The coyotes are not slaughtering off your deer. In the spring the fawns are certainly vulnerable but after that its rare that a coyote could take down an adult deer in good health. An intense, quick deer rut is the best defense against coyote predation on fawns. Its called "predator swamping." Coyotes will never go away and I'm glad, if you've never tried matching wits with coyotes on their terms then I suggest you try it. If you think deer are cagey you're mistaken. Besides, if coyotes are so overpopulated how hard could it be right? Give it a try... That's my rant for the day. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

4 years, 5 months and 13 days..... +/- 1 year. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

I thought the same thing. Its rare to be able to walk over a mile and not cross several different properties in the process. Looks to be like the friend just wanted to try some public shaming on the guy that found the buck as the OP hasn't responded to any comments...Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

I've never heard of any law against this. They're both legal implements during the late season, you can bring a bow and rifle with you during regular season so this shouldn't be any different. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

I'm sure there's more to the whole story than what we were told, you're only going to hear what the person wants you to know. The kid that shot the deer may be the neighborhood poacher, maybe he trespassed onto the guys property that found it without asking, maybe he wounds 4 deer every year, maybe he's a great kid who wounded a deer and though looking to the best of his abilities couldn't locate it. Who knows for sure and we won't know. Any one of the above factors could change my opinion if I were the one who found said antlers... Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

So if you found a dead buck and took the antlers you'd put your tag on it? Come on man.... Its not even relevant to the story. Do you think the original person that wounded it would've tagged it a month later? Doubtful. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

I think people just don't understand what is really meant by arc... The bullet can't jump above the bore centerline, its impossible. Arc is in reference to line of sight. Gravity effects all bullets at the same rate, its just more noticeable the slower the projectile is moving. ( if you sight a shotgun in for 300 yds it will have a huge arc, if you sight a high velocity rifle in for the same the curve will be much less)Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Let's say you put a laser sighter in your barrel and put it in a lead sled and put that laser dead center at 100 yds. Now without moving the gun, fire a rd at the target. Your bullet will be low. Therefore the barrel needs to be canted slightly upward in order to hit the target, therefore crossing the line of sight the first time very close range and the second time at the target. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Exactly. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

The line to reference when speaking of "arc" is line of sight. Not the bore. You're complicating it more than you need to. After all you're aiming using line of sight...Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

The article you posted gives you the answers you're looking for. It "goes up" because its pointed up! IE... The barrel is pointed upward.Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Wow, this isn't really that complicated. Apparently we don't have too many rifle or long range shooters here. If the barrel was perfectly level then there would be no arc. Unless your deer rifles are sighted in for very short range then yes your bullet is flying in an arc. In most cases your barrel is canted upward to counteract gravitational forces. Think about throwing a football, if you threw it perfectly level you'd never be able to hit a guy down the field because it would drop too quickly, you need to raise your aim above the target and drop it in. Does anyone disagree that the bullet crosses the line of sight twice? Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Yes I'm positive. You are correct that the bullet starts dropping as soon as it leaves the muzzle, to counteract bullet drop you need to point the barrel upward in order to make the bullet impact where you want (the second time it crosses line of sight). The slower the bullet and greater the distance the greater the arc. Same goes with bows. Surely you've seen an arrow arc, bullets are no different in that respect. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

To counteract bullet drop you are canting the barrel upward which in fact creates an arc in the bullets trajectory. The bullet doesn't create arc, the barrel does. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Depending on your setup and the range your sighted for a bullet most certainly can and will "arc". However this is not the bullet that causes this its the slight upward cant of the barrel. If a barrel is held perfectly level then it will not cross the line of sight twice, if your setup leaves the barrel canted upwards then yes it will "arc" and cross the line of sight twice. Its physics. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

I'm glad I wasn't the only one that thinks like this, the guy that wounds the deer is not "entitled" to the horns when or if they are ever recovered, also it sounds as if this deer should've been recovered if it were only 80 yds from last blood. It might suck to have to know someone else has something that by all rights should've been yours but you failed to seal the deal unfortunately. The guy that found the deer may also have some reservations as to whether you were in fact the guy that wounded it, big antlers make people do things they wouldn't otherwise do... Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Mine has fed great despite the sharp case angle, never had a single issue. A friend of mine had a winchester rifle chambered in the same and he had issues with feeding but my ABolt has been flawless.Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk