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I agree with Elmo. The speed and fragile rounds make for a mess and inedible squirrel with most body shots. None of the 17 HMR rounds will be much different unfortunately. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

I too laugh every time I see newbies to coyote hunting going in all gung-ho. I was there once too so I fully understand. Coyotes make deer look really dumb, I'll be the first to admit I don't kill a lot of coyotes but I get a few every year and its no easy task. I bet your predator thread stays pretty quiet despite the millions of yotes people "know" are there. To the OP, I don't mean to come off negative, you should definitely get out there and have fun just don't get discouraged because kills are generally few and far between. There have been numerous threads lately on the coyote topic and most peoples knowledge of them is very limited/unfounded. If you need any help/information feel free to ask. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Because at the time I didn't have them and you won't find them on any shelves around here. I agree a Barnes would've been ideal, if I were to ever give it another go I would certainly choose a heavily constructed bullet. Just too many better options in calibers for me to go back to a marginal one...Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Not following you...? Implying I'm an expert? Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Not this season but a few years ago I did. Bullet was a Hornady 75gr. Match hollow point. Shot a doe at 20 yds. She went 30 yds and died. Bullet never exited and no blood in snow whatsoever, even where she lay dead. It worked but I'll probably never use it again. If it had been a less than perfect hit and no snow I doubt I'd have ever found it. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Coyotes are a lot more difficult to kill than you're thinking. Do some research. Its going to take more than dog food or an electronic caller to be successful. Be patient and read up on tactics. It can be done but don't go in expecting to stack up coyotes because it won't happen. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Scope caps and some versions of the anti-fog spray/material. I've used "scope dope" and "cat crap (made by arctic cat)" before but any fog eliminator should help. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Arguing with you isn't helping him either so, I'm done. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

"What could be interjected that is useful?" Your words, not mine... Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

I think pigeon is awesome! Not sure I would eat a city pigeon that's been eating bubblegum and pizza crust off the sidewalk but farm pigeons are great. Fun to shoot, no seasons, farmers typically don't like them, taste great. What's not to love!? Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Exactly my point. You didn't have anything useful yet you decided to pick apart his terminology. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

The hunters where I'm from do it a little different. There's no option to run them down on a machine as its thick forest with no fields to speak of. Its a matter of trying to get in front of the dogs and get the coyote as it comes by. Its a lot of running and scurrying around, physically exhausting. The guys I speak of don't swap out tired dogs for fresh as some seem to think is commonplace. There are many times the yote comes out the victor as it loses the dogs. I encourage anyone that has never done it to at least go along on a few hunts and experience it before you bash it based on hearsay or internet banter. I agree that if the animals are truly causing significant damage and are truly overpopulated then to me it wouldn't matter too much about sporting, its a matter of animal reduction. Although true overpopulation of coyotes in the majority of areas is just not true. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

I agree with your stance on coyotes here in NY but, do you know the guys didn't have permission on said private land? The guys I know have permission for about 1200 acres and all of that is posted property. And is hearing rapid shots so much different than a lot of deer hunters? Deer drives? The guys I speak of are a great group of guys that are just as much sportsmen as anyone on this forum, don't make all houndsmen out to be trespassing, I'll informed, lazy excuses for hunters... That's all I'm saying. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

To put it plain. If you want numbers of coyotes taken from an area, run them with dogs. If you want to be "sportsman like" then call them at night or trap them... I think the waters are getting muddled now about "hunting" and nuisance hunting. It doesn't sound like a single person on here has actually tried hunting with dogs? Most of you have no idea what it entails or the work involved not only with the hunt but year round dog work. I don't think shooting bears, coons or lions out of trees is very sporting either but I'm not advocating against it either. Running dogs is the most effective way of killing coyotes. Period. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Internet cops are out in force as usual... You knew what he was talking about, here's where you interject something useful to his situation or go look for grammatical errors somewhere else... Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

There is a difference between hunting and population control. I'm curious how many on here have actually run coyotes with dogs? I know a group of guys that run yotes in the winter and its not as easy as walking up and putting a bullet in their heads. A fair share still elude the dogs. Its funny that this yhread went from most people hating coyotes and using any means necessary to eradicate to now worrying about how sporting the kills are...Is running hounds less sportsmanlike than using poisons? Is it less sportsmanlike than killing a coyote caught in a trap? How about the guys down south that run deer with dogs, are they not hunters? It may not be your style of hunting but saying they aren't hunters because you don't agree with them is ridiculous. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

No they are not, internet cop... Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Ramcats worked great once again. Pass through on a doe at 15 yds, pass through on a 9pt at 32 yds. The ramcat went through the shoulder blade and still exited the last rib on opposite side on 9pt.. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Don't worry about going too crazy trimming the neck roast, the fat literally melts away in a crockpot or oven. Just get the thick, tallowy stuff off and put it right in a crockpot for 6 hours or so. You won't be able to tell the difference between it and a beef roast. One of the best parts of a deer to me.Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Not everyone cares about a trophy. Shoot what you're happy with and let everyone else do the same. This shove trophy hunting down everyone's throat is ruining the sport. I too let all 1.5 yr old bucks walk and I don't always kill a buck every year as I hunt only state land but I'm certainly not going to begrudge someone else the right to shoot a 1.5 yr old buck if its legal. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

I've never had a deer officially scored, no. If I shot a 140" buck its a beautiful buck and knowing the score wouldn't make me any more proud of him than if I didn't know it. The only time scores mean something to me is when someone tells me about a big buck, to some people an 80" is big, others its 130", so its a number that can describe the relative size of a rack without physically seeing it... I'm in no way against scoring bucks, it just doesn't rate very high on my priority list. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

I've killed good bucks for the public land I hunt, you certainly won't see me featured in any hunting magazines with my deer but I'm proud of them. In my opinion if you can get a 3.5 yr old deer on public land you're doing good. Don't get me wrong I like racks as much as the next guy but I think people get too hung up on score, too many TV shows preaching scores. It turns it into a competition and that turns people into poaching, cheating etc... If my 3.5 yr old buck scores 95" that's fine by me, if he tops 120" then I'm thrilled! Age class is important to me, not necessarily inches...Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

My best advice is patience. Eastern coyotes are notoriously hard to call. You'll have better luck at night. Always watch downwind as most will circle a call, I try to keep an open field or pond or something downwind so they can't circle or they expose themselves if they do. Don't overcall, wait longer than 30 minutes after each call. They are very leery at times and would rather go hungry than let their guard down it seems. Don't go out with expectations of laying waste to a coyote every stand, be mobile, if you get no action after 45 minutes or so move 1/4 to 1/2 mile and do it all over again. Its amazing how everyone thinks there are blood thirsty, deer slaughtering coyotes behind every tree in the woods and in the middle of winter you can sound like a TV dinner to these critters and..... Nothing. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

Don't bother looking at the 750 Woodsmaster. We took back several for repair at the shop I used to work at for cycling issues, including one that even Remington could not correct in 3 tries so they reimbursed the customer. My father owns one and it's heavy and won't cycle a lot of loads reliably. It won't even chamber a 180 gr ballistic tip from the mag, the tip gets caught up on the feed ramp. You couldn't give me one for free. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

They typically shrink in my opinion. What you could swear was a 120" suddenly becomes 100"... I've never really seen one become much bigger than anticipated. Often times we let our excitement get the best of us but that's what its all about! I don't care what score they are anyways. You want scores?, watch football. Its all about the experience! My .02... Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk