adk3006

Well rifle starts in northern zone tomorrow. According to sunrise/sunset calendar, sunrise is at 0720 where I hunt. If one were to shoot a coyote at 0710, how would it be illegal? BTW, as we all no it would be light enough to shoot at 0710, so no "special" coyote hunting equipment would be required.

I myself think the DEC has it explained quite clearly. As you have put in bold, one may hunt big game sunrise to sunset. Before sunrise or after sunset it is completly legal for one to hunt coyotes. Coyotes ARE NOT big game, they are furbearers which can be hunted day or night with a centerfire rifle as long as centerfires are not prohibited for deer hunting. I'm not saying an Encon officer couldn't give you a ticket if you had a loaded gun before sunrise or after sunset but I would almost bet if you plead not guilty and went to trial, there wouldn't be a justice in NYS that would find you guilty, other than Bubba! It's a bit scary that a JP is having such a hard time understanding a simple regulation.

Well it was muzzleloader season this past week in the northern zone and rifle season starts tomorrow. It looks like a muzzleloader in the picture.......

I've seen button bucks work licking branches aswell.

I couldn't have said it better myself wdswtr!! This site would probably be the last place I would seek advice for anything. I have learned a lot from the site but it has been through reading and certainaly not through asking questions!! I have never seen a group of people that fight amongst each other like hunters do. I'm sure the OP felt bad enough about his situation then a few members of the forum feel the need to make him feel worse. All I can say about the situation is no one can ever really say for sure weather they would shoot or not shoot in any given situation unless they were actually there! If there are hunters out there that have never wounded a deer I am more than willing to bet they have never shot at many because it is just an unfortunate part of hunting, it comes with the turf. Even if we do are very best not to wound animals, mistakes happen.

Shoot him, have him aged and we will all know for sure how old he is!!!

6F. Franklin County.

I agree with improving habitat but that is hard to do in much of the adirondacks due to NYS owning and over whelming amount of acearage. Also if deer don't need our interferance then why do we hunt to try to control the population?

Obviously you have never seen the winters in the Adirondacks because what you have stated above could not be farther from the truth. AND it's not legal Those legal and ethical issue's sure are conflicting. At any point in my reply did I say supplemental feeding was legal?? What I said was many deer die of starvation in the dacks during the winter and it isn't because the herd is beyond capacity. Right now there is 4+ feet of snow in the dacks, any spring won't be here for quite a while so IMO supplemnetal feeding in some places is more beneficial to the deer than not.

How come the buck in the third pic has a green tag if he was killed in southern zone during the 2010 season? 2010 tags were yellow.

Obviously you have never seen the winters in the Adirondacks because what you have stated above could not be farther from the truth.

What do you say to our hunting brothers in the Daks that don't have permits? Seems like most everyone forgets, is unaware or just doesn't care that there are NO DMP's in the Daks! It's pretty tough for us guys to pass on a small buck to shoot a doe if we don't have a DMP. ;D Just curious , but why not get a dmp for another area and take a trip to some state land to hunt? Just a thought Well NY, it is a thought but does not appeal to me for a few reasons. Time off from from work is one. I do get vacation but I would rather spend it hunting for an adirondack bruiser or any adirondack buck for that matter. I used to go to 8N hunting on public land but got sick of the orange barrade. Second is money. I will admit I could afford traveling for a hunt but really see no need to since if I take my time off to hunt the daks I know I can kill a buck......maybe only a spike but none the less i am happy and it didn't cost me a ton of money.

What do you say to our hunting brothers in the Daks that don't have permits? Seems like most everyone forgets, is unaware or just doesn't care that there are NO DMP's in the Daks! It's pretty tough for us guys to pass on a small buck to shoot a doe if we don't have a DMP. ;D

I don't know many details but according to what was sent to me, this buck was taken in Tupper Lake, NY.

If you aren't on board with food plots then your neighbors are going to pull deer from your property to their food plots. CWHITE, I certainly don't have to worry about any of my neighbors putting in food plots. My neighbors gladly let me put in the plots and THEY reap the benefits by sitting on my property lines!

Joe, Unfortunatley you must not be reading what I have previously wrote in this thread. Where I live, own a couple hundred acres and hunt there are no DMP's issued. So if I can't shoot a buck and there are no DMP's...................WHAT CAN I HUNT??

put yourself in another person's shoes. you are 65 and/or on a fixed income...you live up north and are 2 hours one way from an area that has DMP's. are you going to go? It is a tough call. The desire may be there but not the means Exactly Culver. If you have a doe season only and there is absolutley no way you can get a DMP for the area you live/hunt why would you buy a hunting license. The NZ covers a pretty big area meaning a significant amount of license sale could be lost. ALso like someone said, maybe alot of people would start going to areas in the SZ because they get a DMP but this would create problems for people that have alway got DMP's for these areas because if the amount of DMP's stay the same and more people apply this would mean more people would get denied.

So if I'm understanding you correctly Joe, in areas where no DMP's are currently issued (this is where I hunt) there would be no gun season ??? ?? Seems to me this would decline license sales!

No AR's where I hunt in the NZ, we have a very lengthy gun season aswell and I've managed to take some trophies. So trophy bucks are for the taking regardless of AR's, one just has to put some time in to get them, which makes the even more of a trophy. If 10 pointer sightings were common, how special would it really be to shoot one?

I'm no expert by any means but I will try to help. From looking at the two pictures you posted, those bucks know the camera is because they are both looking right at it. Even though your camera uses a flash, when the flash goes off the picture is already captured so this should not be the reason for the deer looking at the camera. I know on some of my camera's if something triggers the sensor there is a red light that will blink, I have no idea why the manufacturers would put such a thing on a trail cam but they do. Anyhow, all I do is take a piece of electrical tape and cover the red light so nothing can see it blink, it will not effect the performance of your camera. Lastly one of the most important things to consider when setting the camera up is scent control. Be careful to wear as scent free clothing and footwear as possible and also use latex gloves when handling the camera.........this will help!

I heat with wood. I try to keep the temp around 72 or 73. The thing that sucks about wood is someone got to be there to feed the fire and oh ya, it's a lot of work. I can't imagine living in a house at 66......brrrrrrr, to cold for me but to each's own.

I can clearly see you have no idea about the beef business. Veal is taken from just about any breed of calf that you could imagine and let me tell you most of them are not from beef cattle calves. Most are bull dairy calves. Reread my post ADK----I understand that veal comes from most all breeds...but USDA Beef does not come from milk producing breeds...so I guess you can't clearly see...lol No I can clearly see, see that you are wrong. USDA inspected means an animal is healthy and disease free an fit for human consumption. I (or anyone) can bring a jersey steer or any other dairy breed of cattle for that matter to a meat processor that is a certified USDA inspected business for butcher and sell the meat as "beef". So just because "beef" is USDA inspected does not mean it didn't come from a dairy breed animal.

I can clearly see you have no idea about the beef business. Veal is taken from just about any breed of calf that you could imagine and let me tell you most of them are not from beef cattle calves. Most are bull dairy calves.

Congratulations, beautiful buck.

I agree 100% with what you are saying nyantler but lets not forget the winters in the adirondacks either. I'd say a good percentage of the deer in the adk's, partically bucks and fawns die due to winter kill. I guess what I am saying is a lot of deer don't make it to maturity due to winter kill.