Hunter007

Why not you have one for sell ?

Someone else wrote that

I forgot exactly where this place was now someplace in 3j I friend took me there one time to hunt Turkey about 20 years ago Was just abandoned land i think that everyone around new about that people hunted . Place was a mess lots of trash junk where everyone parked I remember . Then I have been to others that are kepted natural no trash junk around .

Nice I have around a dozen guns to choose from so when you heard me saying I'm using this over that it's just to changed it up the places I hunt you can't see past 50 yards there all accurate at those distances . And I don't care how accurate someone thinks they are , it's still a good idea to find which bullet will cause the most damage in any caliber you are using .

I don't believe that story for one second that was premeditated murder.

Congrats I just look for the spot with the most Oak trees and post there . Crow calls on the other hand I have used they work awesome .

Well if they are there going to learn the hard way it is not going to work .

I dont disagree with you never said anything different never mentioned it accuracy not being most important thing shouldn't have to its obvious. By the way, you are the one who told me to go with 308 or 30_06 over 44 mag in the big woods because you get better penetration . Do you remember ? Also you telling me to stay away from .223 7.62×39mm because they were Not that good either . Hypothetically speaking let's say you are off by a inch from the kill zone of a deer . A better caliber my create a bigger wound channel that will catch part of the vitals that a lesser bullet may miss altogether . That's all a ment by that statement. Btw shotguns even smoothbores 50 yards and less are accurate. And devastating . another point range matters also . But he new what I meant and just was trying to start a argument. This thread was about deer running in front of a second hunter then being shot by that hunter . Something less likely to happen if you use a more powerful caliber. I'm done talking about this . Hunt with what ever you like .

(This topic is a another reason why you are better off using a little more powerful caliber then a less powerful one who wants to deal with that scenario .) That's my original comment. Everyone here that guns hunts knows exactly what I ment by that . Your margin of error is a little better with a caliber that makes the bigger wound channel. It's not rocket science. We all know you have to try and make a perfect shot . But things sometimes dont work out that way . Do what you want, you like spending all day looking for a deer that could have been put down faster with a better caliber good for you.

You got to check this guy out interesting philosophy

So good news so far this season no accidental shootings at least I have not heard anything on the news this year about them .

He took a perfect shot and at that range the bullet dumbed probably all its energy into the bear .

I think he means either abandoned land or land that the owner let's who ever knows about it hunt there .

Your comment about guys making bad shots does not even make sense . Every hunter is trying to make a good shot when they hunt. So with all things being equal . A guy is better off using a more powerful caliber. That's my only point here it never changed . why do I want to use a 55 grain bullet When I can use 100 150 180 200 or more grain bullet . Or any bullet that will make the bigger wound channel. Why limit yourself to less power if you dont have to . If you dont think it makes a difference maybe you should try grizzly bear hunting with 22 LR in Alaska. And tell us all how it worked out . The only exception would be if you cant shoot those larger calibers accurately .

With out knowing Distance exact shot placement We are both just speculating. And even brand of bullet in same caliber will make a difference.

Because these are all hypothetical questions With out running tests on live deer . I cant say for sure except if we are talking with bullets that are very different in power and size you will notice .

I will say it again I think you will only notice a difference when you are talking about the higher end versus the lower end of what most people are using .

Not sure it would make difference with those 2 calibers. But a do think it would make a noticeable difference with something like 243 . I think you will notice a difference when you are talking about the higher and lower ends of what people are using The calibers in between probably not going to notice.

I'm agreeing with you , most important thing is shot placemat but after that having the best bullet for the job is important also .

Tissue damage is tissue damage the more damage that bullet does the faster the animal is going to drop dead its the reason they have caliber restrictions in the first place .

And where did I say anything about it being a bad shot or a gut shot in that comment? Are you from cnn? Lol

So you think doctors dont see gun shots in emergency rooms?

Yes but the point is the more damage that bullet does the faster that deer is going to die or slowdown and die .

Ask a doctor your wrong more tissue damage is more tissue damage resulting in a faster death

Those are your words not mine . Where did I say "marginal shots "