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Yeah, ain't it funny how they got exempted from the clean water act?

Not saying it is valid, but perhaps it's the longer lethal range of the weapons involved & the perception that it might be easier to mistake the similar sized forms of humans & deer, while turkeys are much smaller. Are the regulations set by the DEC or the legislature? If it is the later, rationality might not be a prerequisite.

Is that something you plagiarized from Sarah Palin? Sure sounds like her goobledygook.

I think perhaps we are using differing words to make the same point.

Ok, we don't "need" the Bill of Rights then. Sorry if I misunderstood.

Well, your right & I didn't mean to come off as saying that an elderly person might not need a firearm for defense. I'm quickly getting to that age myself. The point is, if a person is caught W/O a weapon strength isn't neccessarily a prerequisite to do enough harm to a person to incapacitate them long enough to do even greater harm. Fist fights are physically draining & I would most certaily get my old a$$ handed to me engaging a younger, stronger opponent in a "fight" if they were the least bit capable. My course of action would be to avid gettimg into a "fight". One thing I learned in my limited training in martial arts, a "belt" doesn't mean squat. Many times, all the belt means is that the person has learned a certain set of sequenced moves. Putting those moves into use in a street situation is a whole nuther ball of wax. Notv saying that some of those "belt" holders aren't bad a$$, but a lot of 'em ain't. Just like using a firearm in a tense situation. ome are capable, some aren't I sought training because my employment required that I had to work & sleep among armed thugs & there were times when I was not armed with my .380. When I could, I carried it. I never earned any "belts" but when sparring, I was always put up against brown belts & above, most of them very capable. I certainly took a lot of lumps, but I also saw some pretty slick moves put on me. Nothing like a foot up side the head to make a lasting impression.

It still refers to a need. If you don't need a militia, you don't need the right. Beside I just posted that the word neccessay was in the amendment, nothing more. I'm not arguing the validity or the need for the 2nd amendment. I was just pointing out that there is a "need" If you argue that there isn't a need, then aren't you arguing that we don't need the 2nd amendment or a bill of rights. The Bill of Rights most certainly is a bill of needs. If they weren't we wouldn't need it. What's so entertaining is that for me being so insignificant to Mr VJP, he certainly seems to have a hard time resistig the bait.

I know it's difficult for you, but those big words are made up of what is known as syllables. Syllables allow you to break those big, long, hard to say words down into sounds. In order to make it easier for you, I enlaged the word you seem to be having difficulty with & highlighted it in RED. Now say the syllables along with me. ne- se-sare-ee. Second Amendment - Bearing Arms. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

In regards to the quote you responded to that also included BO during Turkey Hunting. Pennsylvania, which has some of the most restrictive hunting lws I have even encountered, used to require BO in Turkey season when on the move & I think a blaze orange ribbon above the calling position. While the 1st requirement is borderline IMO, the 2nd is ludacrous. Just about all spring turkey season shooting incidents would be prevented if people would just STOP TRYING TO STALK TURKEYS. It's impossible for 99.99% of hunters to stalk within shotgun range of a calling Turkey anyway.

The aveage Joe in this country is going to go against the side that seems like radical extremists. Now if we turn this country into a religious theocracy controled by extremeists, then intimidation will work. There are people working towards that right now. Hopefully, the 1st amendment will prevent that.

Seems that I remember seeing the word "neccessary" in the 2nd ammendment.

While some may consider "open carry" at the local department store or Kroger a right, you also have a right to go without a shower & changing clothes for months & visit the same places. Neither shows good judgement or consideration for our fellow citizens. Which bring up another point. Ohio is an 'open carry" state isn't it? What about John Crawford's right to open carry a BB gun that he picked up from a shelf in an Ohio Walmart?

I still don't see the rational for the NRA opposing universal background checks. For years they beat the drum of keeping guns out of the hands of criminals. At least setting up background checks for gun shows would eliminate at least one source of easy access.

Oh yes, it's her right & I have tried to "train" her. Some folks just aren't suited to self defense. She folds when quick thinking/action is required.

Not crying in the least. I am emenesly entertaind by your posts. Great comedy, thanks for being so compliant. Please continue.

Not talking about mind melding rather keeping ones head & if you go back & re-read my post i tnink I included the use of a firearm in that same subject. So, what if you are caught in a situation where you don't have your weapon? A TV tray or clock radio would be poor choices & would not be an effective weapon. Now, the sharp corner of a conter top, a refridgerator, a heavy glass ashtray or the iron grate from a gas range would be quite effective. Stun the opponent, then incapacitate immediately. The eliment of surprise would be paramout & using the assailants wieght to his disadvantage. Being percieved as an "old vulnerable person" would work well as far as the assailant expecting a ruthless, incapacitating action. Even when armed with a gun, if you hesitate, you have lost the advantage. The same mind factor applies to surviving/escaping any perilous situation be it an accident or natural disastor. Take your time to think quickly under pressure. Ever hear of the sensation of things happening in slow motion? I have seen some scientific explanations for that. Survivors usually have that ability, victims often don't. I doubt if my wife could effectively use a firearm in a tense situation to defend herself, she fold under pressure.

Experience & ruthless treachery will win out over youth & exuberance every time. The mind is a lethal weopon if it is employed properly. This also applies to the use of firearms for defense, but almost any room is filled with weapons, some of them fixed, some of them not..

What is the safety access like with the thumbhole?

Try the action in the new stock. If it drops right in it will probably require glas bedding to maintain accuracy. The action must fit into the wood so that when the action screws are tightened down, there is no binding or stress placed on the action. My guess & what you really want, is an action/stock fit that need some wood removal to allow the action to fit down into the wood for a precise, bind free fit. Here is a short video that shows the basics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikHT5EtZGqU The guide screws are the most important item to get things lined up properly. You can probably make some if you can get long bolts in the proper thread. Hopefully the threads will interchange with something more common like a Reminton M700 or Winchester M70. Savage M10/110 action guide bolts might be available. Most of the work can probably be accomplished with the 1/4" chisel but a nice set of SHARP chisels from 1/8' to 1/2" will make life easier. Link that wasposted below was edited out due to the fact that the stock was modified from a M11/110 stock to fit the 220.

Thumbhole stocks aren't good for carry. How many shotguns intended for wing shooting do you see with thumhole stocks? If the gun will spend all of its time at sling arms or in a raised, ready to engage position, a thumhole stock will be fine. If you ever contemplate still hunting or perhaps following a blood trail with the weapon on the ready at port arms, not so much. Form follows function. I like the George Patton analogy.

If it's a Gray, pan fry it like chicken. Simmer it after you brown it to make it tender, adding some mushrooms & a little onion if that suits your taste. If it's a Fox Squirrel make stew or pie out of it. If it's an OLD Fox Squirrel, make boot heels out of it.

No testosterone to vent?

I think the current crop of "open carry" extremists are doing a huge disservice to gun owners. I have the same opinion of Ted Nugent except he is making hunters look bad in the eyes of the public too.

Hey mike, great post. Since I'm no longer on their mailing list. I'm not aware of their stance on conservation that concerns you. Could you explain? I would think that conservation would be in the Hunter's best interest, but of course there are differing concepts of conservation.