Concrete Action To Restore Our Gun Rights

[Early]

Thus far, I have seen no concrete action to restore the gun rights we lost to Cuomo's new gun lasws. Marchione threatens repeal action but has done nothing...Law enforcement agencies offer mild protests and promise to enforce the laws...meeting after meeting is held...letter after letter is written, and NOTHING concrete has been done...at least nothing that I know of. Let's use this thread to report REAL ACTION undertaken to restore/protect our gun rights. (No "good intentions"...no "lip service"...just real action(s) that may have a positive effect.) I look forward, with little hope, to seeing something soon.

[Dinsdale]

NYSPRA filed a notice of claim against NY (Attorney General)....

Text is on their website.

Basically gives the State a heads up and gives 90 days to file suit.

NRA is using Rifle and Pistol Association as Tom King is on NRA board.....also keeps them clean if they don't win.

[Doc]

Not that this fits the description of "concrete action to restore the gun rights we lost to Cuomo's new gun laws", but I would simply like to proudly proclaim that my County Board of Supervisers (Ontario County) is in the process of drafting a resolution opposing the passage of the NY Safe Act. It doesn't really mean anything other than to show Cuomo that not all areas of government have turned on gun owners.

I did read something the other day about the NYSPRA law suit Dinsdale mentioned in his reply. I want to caution you not to expect the legal action to fly through as quickly as Cuomo slipped it to us with his anti-gun "Gotcha law". We have to grind it out in the normal, legal fashion.

[Early]

NYSPRA action is good....County Boards of Supervisors' letters of opposition (any letters of opposition) are just letters. Let those same supervisors advise every court in their county to NOT prosecute violators of Cuomo's laws; that will mean something.

We, the people of NY, are being played for fools....by our elected officials who are doing NOTHING and by law enforcement agencies who stand ready to enforce Brother Andrew's edicts!

[wztirem]

Not that this fits the description of "concrete action to restore the gun rights we lost to Cuomo's new gun laws", but I would simply like to proudly proclaim that my County Board of Supervisers (Ontario County) is in the process of drafting a resolution opposing the passage of the NY Safe Act. It doesn't really mean anything other than to show Cuomo that not all areas of government have turned on gun owners.

I did read something the other day about the NYSPRA law suit Dinsdale mentioned in his reply. I want to caution you not to expect the legal action to fly through as quickly as Cuomo slipped it to us with his anti-gun "Gotcha law". We have to grind it out in the normal, legal fashion.

Good post, there is no doubt that Cuomo and his supporters slipped this bill through albeit with a support of the legislative majority. The legal process in determing whether or not his and the legislatures actions were legal is still in doubt. Attorneys relish such opportunities to to file briefs against such legislation for chaos represents cash to them and their firms. We will just have to wait and see how the legal procees unfolds and one must still contact their legislators regarding their opinion on these new gun laws and when election time comes. make their vote count.

[Early]

OK, you regular posters, where are your stories or real action on our behalf. What can you relate that has transpired since Cuomo's edict that protects our rights?? Be specific....No touchy, feely stuff.....Tell me what has been donte that really affects our gun rights!

[Doc]

NYSPRA action is good....County Boards of Supervisors' letters of opposition (any letters of opposition) are just letters. Let those same supervisors advise every court in their county to NOT prosecute violators of Cuomo's laws; that will mean something.

We, the people of NY, are being played for fools....by our elected officials who are doing NOTHING and by law enforcement agencies who stand ready to enforce Brother Andrew's edicts!

I'm not sure what you are expecting. A County Board of Supervisors will not be advising illegal activity and I would be scared as hell if they did. I only mentioned their resolution to show that at least one county (so far) is not afraid of taking a political stance in favor of gun rights (something that takes more political courage than you will ever imagine).

Law suits do not happen within a couple of weeks, at least not any that you are hoping to win. If we are defeated due to impatience and rushing headlong into it without proper preparation, there likely will be no serious follow up. Given the fact that we don't have an unlimited treasury like the state does, and that only a small percentage of gun owners actually put their money where their mouth is, we do not get unlimited opportunities to fight this in the courts. I suspect that it is a one-shot deal. So time and care better be taken to make it a good one.

Let's not be demanding that our law enforcement agencies do what we know they cannot do. Law enforcement agencies are bound by the laws that they are enforcing.

Things are happening, but in a logical organized and legal way. There are legal procedures for doing this. Yes, we are all impatient, but demanding unreasonable and unlikely activities and responses will not hurry up the process.

[sits in trees]

alot of rallys this month, great press and helps get more people on our side...thats concrete..

[Early]

Concrete?...Maybe: We are still way behind in the mainstream media; more people on our side changes nothing....Our choir was already singing.

[Doc]

I don't know ..... something is changing. I've been noticing a lot more mainstream media reports that are showing a sympathetic coverage toward gun-owners. Along with that is coming a negative slant against cuomo and the way he bulldozed his gun package through using legally questionable tactics. That is a bit shocking, because that is not typical of the media. Something is going on that is changing minds on the issue. And then too, there is this massive enrollment in the NRA. That's unusual and unprecedented. I think there are signs of a grassroots mindset shift.

No it's not anything that is going to show up right today to immediately reverse the cuomo gun-owner harrassment. But it may stop any future activities of that sort. His popularity ratings took a huge hit over this, and from what I am reading the negatives are not just coming from gun owners. With a little bit of effort at election time, I think we have a chance of bouncing a bunch of these anti-gun jerks. If that happens, you will see the anti-gun forces crawling back under their rock. Nothing makes a bigger impact on changing their principles than threats to their votes..... lol.

However, the fact still remains that if we are going to eliminate the cuomo "Gotcha" legislation, we only have one route and that is the courts. That's all I see on the immediate horizon. Anything else is just idle talk and posturing.

[tuckersdaddy]

patients is a virtue. overturning a law in the courts is a time consuming process. the filing from the nysrp is the first step in a very long battle. we need to show supports from letters and rallies from day 1 until the courts finish sorting it out. may be well beyond the implementation of the law, may even involve someone being arrested and going all the way to the us supreme court (like heller) dont be down on what is being done now. keep pushing the letters, keep rallying. what cuomo wants us to do is give up and forget. the more and longer we push back the better the out come for us. the 60th letter to your state senator or congressman or the 10th rally on albany in a year has a better chance of breaking them then the massive up roar now. be patient, keep pressuring.

[Doc]

One of the most effective things you can do is to keep the issue going. Letters to the editor in local papers are always good. Also, the time may be right for another round of letters to your state and federal legislators either thanking them for their "no" vote, or reminding them that they have lost a vote for the ones that voted for that trash-law. Don't let the issue fade into oblivion. The worse thing that can happen is for us to become consumed in apathy. Also, keep in mind that Obama has yet to crank up his effort to stick it to gun owners. Contact those federal representatives and let them know how you feel about further gun legislation.