Slug Gun Range Report

[OnHoPr]

Well, went to Ortonville Range (MI) yesterday (10/4/13) to do a little shooting with the slug gun. The wind was from 4:00 about 9 mph fluctuating from 5 to 12 mph. Did a bit of shooting at the 50 yd range then I went to the 100 yd range. I tried a few different ammo types during the afternoon. The range closes at 5:00, last shot 4:45, so just before 4:00 I moved my gear down to the 200 yard range and then put up a target. About 4:30 I took three shots, the wind settled down and with the trees on the right side of the range it was quite calmer than earlier in the day. Here’s my first three shot group at 200 yards with the Mossy 835. The scope was set up for a 2 MOA wind drift at 100 yards from the right. I was expecting a little more drop compared to the ballistics on the Hornady ammo box.

 

Equipment:

Mossberg 835 with Trophy Slugster barrel

Gander Mountain Guide Series 3 x 9 Scope

Hornady 12 ga 300 gr SST

One Hole Products Accurizing Slug Shotgun Kit Model MOSS001

 

 

 

Edited October 6, 2013 by OnHoPr

[Lawdwaz]

Nice shooting!

 

How much for the gun and is shipping included in your price?

[WNYBuckHunter]

Why is this in the classifieds? Do you need it moved or is the gun for sale?

[OnHoPr]

Nice shooting!

 

How much for the gun and is shipping included in your price?

 

Gun not for sale but Accuizing Slug Shotgun Kits. The kit will make YOUR gun shoot better.

 

http://www.oneholeproducts.com

[bluecoupe]

Having a bit of problem following exactly what's going on here but if I'm reading right

1) you were sighted in 3" high at 100
2) you aimed at the top of the orange sticky (which means it would hit 3" above that at 100)
3) You hit about 8 1/2 " low.  3 down to the aim point and then about 5 1/2 down from there.

Also 5" right.

I guess I'm missing the point.  Not trying to be a wiseazz, just missing it.

[Lawdwaz]

Having a bit of problem following exactly what's going on here but if I'm reading right

1) you were sighted in 3" high at 100

2) you aimed at the top of the orange sticky (which means it would hit 3" above that at 100)

3) You hit about 8 1/2 " low.  3 down to the aim point and then about 5 1/2 down from there.

Also 5" right.

I guess I'm missing the point.  Not trying to be a wiseazz, just missing it.

 

What you're missing here is the guy is from MI and trying to sell things in a back door way, hence the link in his post.

[bluecoupe]

Well, that kind of "logic" isn't gonna sell a whole h*77 of a lot.  My 500 Mossy with a 3x9 Leupold shoots as good/better than that without another piece of metal screwed to it.  

[ny hunter]

Is it me but I don't think thats all that good?

[WNYBuckHunter]

Not trying to be a downer, but my old 870 grouped better than that at 100 yards with a cheap Bushnell Banner scope and Hornady SSTs. No modifications needed.

 

This pic was 100 yards rested on a wood block on a bench. No lead sled, no bags. The shots toward the top right were from me dialing the scope in. The 3 shot group near the spot were the final 3.

 

[TeeBugg]

Also not trying to be a downer...but my 870 smoothbore shooting the cheap remington sluggers with a 3x9x40 scope groups way better.

[bluecoupe]

Is it me but I don't think thats all that good?

 

I thought it sucked personally, I just didn't want to come right out and say that.  That's what I was illuding to when I pointed out that it was about 8 1/2" low and 5 1/2" right.  If I couldn't get a gun better than that, it'd be gone.

 

My Mossy is dead nutz at 100 and will almost to same hole, given you know what slugs to use.   I'd probably go for a 150 yard shot with it if pushed but 200 I'd pass on unless I was practicing b-ball lob shots or something.

[Lawdwaz]

If you read the OP's opening post, he mentions that this is supposed to be a three shot group at 200yds.  There is only one target shown and it says "2 shots" on it.

 

Strange deal....................................

Edited October 8, 2013 by Lawdwaz

[shawnhu]

If you read the OP's opening post, he mentions that this is supposed to be a three shot group at 200yds. There is only one target shown and it says "2 shots" on it.

Strange deal....................................

Larry, you must be getting slow in your old age, take a second look, unless you need me to explain it to you.

Don't be so quick to criticize until you've given your best to understand what the picture tells you. Took me only 3 seconds.

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[Lawdwaz]

Thanks for clearing that up Shawn. The arrow is mighty small for my aging eyes!

Regardless, two pictures of the same target (and poor quality photography) and all the black script don't help sell anything. I wish the guy well and you too with your fancy flashlight setup.

No price, no business.

[shawnhu]

Thanks for clearing that up Shawn. The arrow is mighty small for my aging eyes!

Regardless, two pictures of the same target (and poor quality photography) and all the black script don't help sell anything. I wish the guy well and you too with your fancy flashlight setup.

No price, no business.

Thanks for the complements. With my flashlights, even a blind man can see in the dark! (Sarcasm) :grin: and whatever else is needed. Might even help with your aging eyes Larry!

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[Lawdwaz]

Thanks for the complements. With my flashlights, even a blind man can see in the dark! (Sarcasm) :grin: and whatever else is needed. Might even help with your aging eyes Larry!

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Send me one, buddy.     I'll put 'er through the paces.  Until then I'll continue to plod along with my Surefire L1.

 

I'll watch the mail............................................

[shawnhu]

Send me one, buddy. I'll put 'er through the paces. Until then I'll continue to plod along with my Surefire L1.

I'll watch the mail............................................

Sure think pal, just take a peek at my site and pick a package. I'll take it from there.

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[OnHoPr]

Having a bit of problem following exactly what's going on here but if I'm reading right

1) you were sighted in 3" high at 100

2) you aimed at the top of the orange sticky (which means it would hit 3" above that at 100)

3) You hit about 8 1/2 " low.  3 down to the aim point and then about 5 1/2 down from there.

Also 5" right.

I guess I'm missing the point.  Not trying to be a wiseazz, just missing it.

 

Hornady 12 ga SST 300 gr FTX Slug (sabot)      Box ballistics

Muzzle       50 yds         100 yds      150 yds        200 yds     

 

2000 fps       +2.4”             +2.7”           0.0”            -6.7”      

 

These ballistics are for scope axis 1.5” above bore center. The BC of the 300 gr FTX bullet is .200

 

With the cantilever, the scope axis on my 835 with the rings is a touch (a few thousands) over 2” to the bore center.

 

The winds while shooting at a 100 yds from the 4:00 angle were generally about 8 – 9 mph though 5 – 12 mph laxed to gust from 12:30 to about 4:00, about 4:30 the winds ceased dramatically.

 

Target distance 200 yards, only 3 shots fired at the target so no other explanations would be necessary.

If you notice the wind drift of 2.3” at a 100 yards, if that wind drift wasn’t there my bullets would of struck center target. If the wind was the same as earlier the whole length of the 200 yard distance, my bullets would have struck about 5” to the left of center. Group size 2.850” at 200 yards. So with these ballistics, aim point would be at the top of the heart just pass 50 yards to 125 yards. Then from 130 yards to 180 yards aim point would dead on. From 185 yards to 205 yards aim point would be at the high shoulder. Then to about 230 the back hair line would be the hold. That is why I aimed at the top of the orange sticky to hit center bull for the 6.7” drop, roughly the top of the deer’s back so as to drop down in to midsection. I centered my scope for 0 winds to adjust according to the wind under different season conditions. Different height cantilevers would have different ballistic tables along with different ammo. SteveC – basically with your 8.5” is correct in a way. If you look at the 100 yd and 200 yd trajectory table you will see a +2.9” at 100 yd and a -4.9” at 200 yd giving a total of 7.8” of point blank range at 200 yd

 

Maybe you should do better; I have hypertension and wear bifocals.

 

Hornady Ballistics Calculator:

Your Input Variables

Ballistic Coefficient

0.200

Velocity (ft/s)

2000

Weight (grains)

300

Maximum Range (yds)

300

Interval (yds)

25

Drag Function

G1

Sight Height (inches)

2.05

Shooting Angle (degrees)

0

Zero Range (yds)

161

Wind Speed (mph)

9

Wind Angle (degrees)

80

Altitude (ft)

600

Pressure (hg)

29.53

Temperature (F)

80

Humidity (%)

0.85

 

RANGE(YARDS)

VELOCITY(FPS)

ENERGY(FT.-LB.)

TRAJECTORY(IN)

COME UP IN MOA

COME UP IN MILS

WIND DRIFT(IN)

WIND DRIFT IN MOA

WIND DRIFT IN MILS

Muzzle

2000

2664

-2.1

0

0

0

0

0

25

1911

2433

0.2

-0.6

-0.2

0.2

0.7

0.2

50

1826

2220

1.8

-3.3

-1

0.6

1.1

0.3

75

1743

2024

2.7

-3.4

-1

1.3

1.7

0.5

100

1663

1842

2.9

-2.8

-0.8

2.3

2.2

0.6

125

1586

1676

2.4

-1.8

-0.5

3.7

2.8

0.8

150

1513

1524

0.9

-0.6

-0.2

5.4

3.4

1

175

1443

1386

-1.4

0.8

0.2

7.5

4.1

1.2

200

1376

1262

-4.9

2.3

0.7

9.9

4.7

1.4

225

1314

1150

-9.4

4

1.2

12.8

5.4

1.6

250

1257

1052

-15.2

5.8

1.7

16

6.1

1.8

275

1205

967

-22.4

7.8

2.3

19.7

6.8

2

300

1158

893

-31.1

9.9

2.9

23.8

7.6

2.2

Your Input Variables

Ballistic Coefficient

0.200

Velocity (ft/s)

2000

Weight (grains)

300

Maximum Range (yds)

300

Interval (yds)

25

Drag Function

G1

Sight Height (inches)

2.05

Shooting Angle (degrees)

0

Zero Range (yds)

161

Wind Speed (mph)

9

Wind Angle (degrees)

80

Altitude (ft)

600

Pressure (hg)

29.53

Temperature (F)

80

Humidity (%)

0.85

 

RANGE(YARDS)

VELOCITY(FPS)

ENERGY(FT.-LB.)

TRAJECTORY(IN)

COME UP IN MOA

COME UP IN MILS

WIND DRIFT(IN)

WIND DRIFT IN MOA

WIND DRIFT IN MILS

Muzzle

2000

2664

-2.1

0

0

0

0

0

25

1911

2433

0.2

-0.6

-0.2

0.2

0.7

0.2

50

1826

2220

1.8

-3.3

-1

0.6

1.1

0.3

75

1743

2024

2.7

-3.4

-1

1.3

1.7

0.5

100

1663

1842

2.9

-2.8

-0.8

2.3

2.2

0.6

125

1586

1676

2.4

-1.8

-0.5

3.7

2.8

0.8

150

1513

1524

0.9

-0.6

-0.2

5.4

3.4

1

175

1443

1386

-1.4

0.8

0.2

7.5

4.1

1.2

200

1376

1262

-4.9

2.3

0.7

9.9

4.7

1.4

225

1314

1150

-9.4

4

1.2

12.8

5.4

1.6

250

1257

1052

-15.2

5.8

1.7

16

6.1

1.8

275

1205

967

-22.4

7.8

2.3

19.7

6.8

2

300

1158

893

-31.1

9.9

2.9

23.8

7.6

2.2

I haven't heard of anybody doing that with a smoothbore and fosters. TeeBugBS

Edited October 17, 2013 by OnHoPr

[OnHoPr]

A ballistics table wouldn't transfer from pasting with word so a couple of phone pics.