Another DEC abortion on the way...

[Four Season Whitetail's]

I used the relevant part of the quote so nobody had to wade through the rest and lose the point.

 

Look, I am simply concerned that an implication of all this co-op stuff is that it is some kind of cure for NYS management problems. It is not and we need to stay focused on the DEC. Co-ops are things that individuals do for their own personal benefit. That is not what this thread is about. Given the context of this thread, if co-ops were not introduced into this discussion about the DEC as being some kind of magic bullet to solve state management shortfalls, then I really don't understand how it relates to the thread at all. I don't want anyone leaving this discussion with the idea that the DEC is off the hook and a solution is on the way via co-ops. The DEC is still the focus. The main focus, and the only focus when you are talking about NYS game management problems.

 

I am not so sure Doc. It may not be the answer but i believe its a huge improvement with landowners managing their own land/herds. Many,Many in todays deer hunting are managing their herds just as high fence ranches do, just minus the fence of course. When we are talking 700-1300 acre solid tracts of land alot can be done do keep the deer in balance and also have some damn good deer hunting when we hunt. After all..That is what this is all about!

 

Did you see the last write up about there being to many deer in Letchworth State Park because young trees are not growing?  What a joke.Now they are talking sharpshooters are relocation! Look at the fenced in enclosers that were put up 3-4 years ago?  There are no new growth of trees in them either.  

 

Coming from someone that has spent about 3 weekends a year and 2 solid weeks vacation during hunting season for the last 19 years on that park....To many deer is no longer a problem on that park.  But of course i am not a trained DEC bioligist with a degree on the wall.

[dbHunterNY]

Ha-ha .... Stubby is our resident bowhunter-hater. I wouldn't take too much of that bowhunter bashing seriously.

 

lol...figured that much.  I've got thick skin and now I'm used to it running the co-op in my area.  can't please everybody.

[dbHunterNY]

Trying to figure whats so bad about Stubby's post.

 

Just look at the #'s, percentage wise bowhunters shoot far fewer does then gun hunters. I believe that's his point!

 

in a few areas in question you can't even use a gun of any kind to harvest a deer.  so while guns might be a good option in some WMUs it can't be applied statewide and shouldn't be.  there's only concern in a limited number of WMUs not throughout the state.  I said based on records from my area doe harvest was different than what he believed and he said I was wrong.  as far as I know he doesn't even hunt in the WMU I do.  my point was what DEC is finally realizing and that's not all WMUs are close enough to be the same to apply statewide based numbers to all of them.