shawnhu Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Can we see a pic of what we are dealing with btw? Curious to see why it doesn't clear the shelf. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I think they are 1-1/8". They may be grizztricks or magnums, I will check. I can't speak to spine as I am not familiar with the stl hunter - is that equivalent of a typical 400 spine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cbarber4 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I have slt 300 my draw is 29 in with 70 lbs and my shop said the 200 were too light for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisw Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Can we see a pic of what we are dealing with btw? Curious to see why it doesn't clear the shelf. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems If your arrows are cut to be just in front of the rest at full draw, the way the blades sweep back on the ramcats they will catch the riser shelf, or contact the riser shelf depending on the height your rest sits above the shelf itself. I shoot a drop a way and with my shorter arrows I cannot come to full draw with ramcats because they catch the riser before I can hit the draw stop. It sounds confusing but I know because I also had these issues at first. I had to cut more arrows 1.5" longer to leave plenty of room for clearance.Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspen_00 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) That's a heavy broadhea for that poundage, go with a 75 or 100 grain, also need a little longer arrow Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited October 2, 2015 by aspen_00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 That's a heavy broadhea for that poundage, go with a 75 or 100 grain, also need a little longer arrow Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Isn't broad head weight important in determining the FOC of an arrow setup? How important is the weight of a broad head vs the poundage of bow? X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspen_00 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 It is important if your having problems with it, given everything else is set up correctly, a bow at 49 lbs will push a lighter grain faster, giving it better range and accuracy, making bow is tuned , sighted in etc. you also want to make sure the fletchings line up with your blades, makes it more consistent, think of your weight of broadheads and speed like ballistics of a bullet Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus1gdsm Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 I'm at 31inch draw and 49lbs Sent from my D6708 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 He has a long draw. 31". Needs a full length 32" arrow and BH that doesn't sweep so far back. Also needs to put the bow back to proper centershot and tune. 125g head will work just fine with the right spine. My 50lb recurve shoots 175g heads with 100g inserts well. But I use a 340 spine. His compound should be much faster. I bet 125g with full length 400s will fly well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus1gdsm Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 I have all 200s Sent from my D6708 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 The 200s are just over a 400 spine. Stl apparently is not the most consistent arrow but just roll them to check for straightness. The slick trick I send should work fine if you get the bow back in tune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus1gdsm Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 If your arrows are cut to be just in front of the rest at full draw, the way the blades sweep back on the ramcats they will catch the riser shelf, or contact the riser shelf depending on the height your rest sits above the shelf itself. I shoot a drop a way and with my shorter arrows I cannot come to full draw with ramcats because they catch the riser before I can hit the draw stop. It sounds confusing but I know because I also had these issues at first. I had to cut more arrows 1.5" longer to leave plenty of room for clearance. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk This the issue. They sweep back to far and hit the side of the bow. But not the riserSent from my D6708 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Well, that's quite a dilemma. I'd paper tune the bow to ensure the rest is back to center and wait for new BH's to come in. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus1gdsm Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Here we go.... This is with a decently strong right to left wind. I draw righthanded Also please bear in mind I'm new and have been shooting for only a month First 20 yard group after readjusting rest and sight Further adjustment 20 yards. 30 yards 1st broadhead group 20yrds 2nd group 20 yards broadheads Sent from my D6708 using Tapatalk Edited October 2, 2015 by zeus1gdsm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus1gdsm Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 General pics. We all love pics. Sent from my D6708 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus1gdsm Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 I feel that the broadhead vanes are slightly wider than the fieldpoints... I'm thinking I should shift the rest a hairs to the left further to allow a tad more clearance. Sent from my D6708 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Here we go.... This is with a decently strong right to left wind. I draw righthanded Also please bear in mind I'm new and have been shooting for only a month DSC_0236.JPG First 20 yard group after readjusting rest and sight DSC_0237.JPG Further adjustment 20 yards. DSC_0238.JPG 30 yards DSC_0239.JPG 1st broadhead group 20yrds DSC_0240.JPG 2nd group 20 yards broadheads Sent from my D6708 using Tapatalk Think you need to tap the rest a tad to the left to broad head tune. Try to get broad heads and field tips to hit in the same vicinity. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Edited October 2, 2015 by shawnhu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus1gdsm Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 Are 3-5 inch groups sufficient enough? Sent from my D6708 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 General pics. We all love pics. DSC_0242.JPG DSC_0241.JPG DSC_0244.JPG DSC_0246.JPG Sent from my D6708 using Tapatalk Are those broad heads legal in NY? Might want to double check. Looks kind of barbed. Could you get a pic of the bow shelf from the left of the bow? Rest seems a bit low. At eye level, looking from the left side of the bow, the arrow should pass through the two small holes that the rest bolts on to. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus1gdsm Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 Also I Robin hooded an arrow at on point and stripped a vane off.... Can I just really it in the same position with super glue? Sent from my D6708 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Are 3-5 inch groups sufficient enough? Sent from my D6708 using Tapatalk A deer's vitals are generally 8" or so. Those groups are sufficient for deer. You know the saying, tighter is always better X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Also I Robin hooded an arrow at on point and stripped a vane off.... Can I just really it in the same position with super glue? Sent from my D6708 using Tapatalk You can put a tiny bit on the vane and place it back, yes. If the vanes are straight and not helical, it should be relatively easy. Just follow the old glue residue. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus1gdsm Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 Sent from my D6708 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I feel that the broadhead vanes are slightly wider than the fieldpoints... I'm thinking I should shift the rest a hairs to the left further to allow a tad more clearance. Sent from my D6708 using Tapatalk The rest isn't there to allow or not allow clearance. There's a proper place the rest needs to be, and that's not dependent on clearance of vanes and broad heads. I think this is an important point that you need to keep in mind. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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