Mr VJP Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 So there it is. The anti-gun crowd is escalating the war on gun ownership by trying to get NRA members, and eventually all gun owners IMO, labeled as "terrorists". Coming from folks who refuse to call actual radical jihadists, terrorists, It says a lot about their intentions regarding public perception of responsible gun owners. https://www.nraila.org/articles/20151016/brady-campaign-labels-nra-terrorists 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptown Redneck Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 The NRA's refusal to promote sensible gun legislation, i.e. expanded background checks to keep guns from those who shouldn't have them, will eventually result in the complete banishment of personal gun ownership as the people of America grow ever more tired of the nonstop barrage of mass shootings only America suffers from. Their complete lack in addressing the ever growing carnage brought about by mass shooters makes them worthy of being addressed as domestic terrorists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) The NRA's refusal to promote sensible gun legislation, i.e. expanded background checks to keep guns from those who shouldn't have them, will eventually result in the complete banishment of personal gun ownership as the people of America grow ever more tired of the nonstop barrage of mass shootings only America suffers from. Their complete lack in addressing the ever growing carnage brought about by mass shooters makes them worthy of being addressed as domestic terrorists. LOL!!! You didn't even try to come off as a hunter/shooter!!! Lazy..very Lazy…. Get back to your Chi tea, yoga and woman's focus groups …LOL!!……. Got any Weed??? Edited October 22, 2015 by ants 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Anyone who thinks "universal background" checks will stop, or would have stopped, any of the recent mass shootings, doesn't know jack about those shootings. They also have no clue how that system is designed to require universal registration of all firearms, which is needed for it to work, and eventually mass confiscation of firearms from anyone the government considers an undesirable. That gives them quite a bit of power to eliminate a lot of gun ownership. If you don't support the NRA and what it does to protect your 2nd Amendment rights, you have no idea what they do and have been conned by the anti gun activists that you are supporting. Edited October 22, 2015 by Mr VJP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) This is for Uptown Redneck, and anyone who agrees with his opinion. "Make no mistake. The dream of the antigun zealots in this Country and their many counterparts elsewhere in this Country and in the world at large would be a nightmare for Americans. If there is anything the law-abiding American citizen ought, rationally, to fear more than hardened criminals getting their hands on guns and harming someone or, if there is anything the law-abiding American citizen ought to fear more than a few paranoid lunatics getting their hands on guns and harming anyone, it is the presence of a powerful, paranoid Government operating without Constitutional restraint, clamping down on an individual’s every thought, action, and deed, imposing its will on everyone." http://arbalestquarrel.com/subverting-the-second-amendment-the-subtle-road-to-injustice/ Open the link and read it. Edited October 23, 2015 by Mr VJP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptown Redneck Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) LOL!!! You didn't even try to come off as a hunter/shooter!!! Lazy..very Lazy…. Get back to your Chi tea, yoga and woman's focus groups …LOL!!……. Got any Weed??? I've been hunting and shooting since I was a kid and was even a member of the NRA. Seeing how the NRA is now nothing but a group of irrational off the deep end Right Wing fanatics whose views are completely out of step with mine as well as an over whelming majority of sane Americans I can no longer support their warped way of thinking. Edited October 23, 2015 by Uptown Redneck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philoshop Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I've been hunting and shooting since I was a kid and was even a member of the NRA. Seeing how the NRA is now nothing but a group of irrational off the deep end Right Wing fanatics whose views are completely out of step with mine as well as an over whelming majority of sane Americans I can no longer support their warped way of thinking. Your views on this issue are precisely why we need the NRA, now more than ever. A little 'softening' is what the anti-gun folks are looking for. The "nose in the tent" concept. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Bellamy Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 LOL!!! You didn't even try to come off as a hunter/shooter!!! Lazy..very Lazy…. Get back to your Chi tea, yoga and woman's focus groups …LOL!!……. Got any Weed??? Yeah LOL indeed. Apparently if anyone disagrees with you they are a liar, effeminate, and a drug addict. If one of your coworkers disagrees with your positions, do you attack them like that as well? How about strangers in the store? Your neighbors? No? Don't feel like getting punched in the face I guess, right? Isn't internet anonymity wonderful? You can unleash your inner jackass and no one can do anything about it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Yeah LOL indeed. Apparently if anyone disagrees with you they are a liar, effeminate, and a drug addict. If one of your coworkers disagrees with your positions, do you attack them like that as well? How about strangers in the store? Your neighbors? No? Don't feel like getting punched in the face I guess, right? Isn't internet anonymity wonderful? You can unleash your inner jackass and no one can do anything about it WOW!!! You are a 100% total hypocrite …….. All you do is "attack" people who's comments or views you disagree with. Thats the only time you comment!! TROLL!! Go get yourself a nice hot tea and curl up on the love seat… maybe get your nails done ....LOL!! INDEED!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 I've been hunting and shooting since I was a kid and was even a member of the NRA. Seeing how the NRA is now nothing but a group of irrational off the deep end Right Wing fanatics whose views are completely out of step with mine as well as an over whelming majority of sane Americans I can no longer support their warped way of thinking. Where the fugg did you ever get that opinion of the NRA?? CNN? MSNBC?? Violence Policy Center?? You obviously have no idea what the NRA is out there doing. All you care about is your little hunting guns and have not one concern about others and their freedoms and rights. Since you obviously never read the article I posted the link to, this is what the NRA is working to stop. "Everything the antigun movement seeks to accomplish in America is illustrative of totalitarianism. What they seek to do is the hallmark of the Security State, and it all boils down to suspicion of and paranoid preoccupation with an entire class of citizenry, virtually the entire citizen population, the commonalty of America. The apparent single-minded quest to quell gun violence hides, then, an insidious agenda: the alteration of our society – converting a free, Democratic Republic into a component of a unified international Socialist World Order. And, it all begins through subtle steps to dispossess the average, rational, sane, responsible, honest, trustworthy, law-abiding American citizen of that citizen’s firearms. But such massive undertaking cannot get traction – nor should it ever get traction in a Democratic Republic such as the United States. And it won’t gain traction, so long as this Country remains a Democratic Republic – a Democratic Republic in fact, not merely in name. At present millions of American citizens own firearms. They are sane, rational, responsible, honest, trustworthy, law-abiding members of society. The number of people who actually resort to violence with guns – who are not, otherwise, from the get-go, either hardened, career criminals on the one hand, or psychopathic or psychotic killers, on the other – is virtually negligible. Yet, the antigun zealots, and the antigun Globalists, and the International Socialist elites – who see no saving grace for Americans’ Second Amendment in a future Socialist World Government – seek to impose ever more restrictive gun laws on millions of sane, rational, responsible, honest, trustworthy law-abiding American citizens. And, if the antigun proponents and zealots, and like-minded groups and individuals such as antigun Globalists and International Socialist elites succeed, the Bill of Rights would be at its end. The Second Amendment is particularly problematic and vexing to antigun proponents and zealots, to antigun Globalists, and to International Socialist elites – to such people and groups both inside this Country and outside it. As they see it, the average, sane, rational, responsible, honest, trustworthy, law-abiding American citizen must be controlled – just as much as the career criminal or the raving lunatic must be controlled if, for no reason, than that there exists millions of them. And, who knows when any one or more of those millions “will turn.” And, so, it is seen as necessary to remove the gun from that average, sane, rational, responsible, honest, trustworthy, law-abiding American citizen American citizenbefore the fact so that the mere possibility of “acting out” a delusional violent fantasy with a gun – however remote that might be – will be impossible. And, as nothing remotely like America’s Second Amendment exists anywhere in the World today – nothing remotely like it exists that cedes such power to the average, sane, rational, responsible, honest, trustworthy, law-abiding American citizen – that power must be constrained. The Second Amendment must be dismantled. Further, all memory of the Second Amendment must eventually be erased. That Amendment must be consigned to the dustbin of history. And the history behind it must be rewritten." Redneck, If you don't think this is worth fighting for, or feel the organization that fights for it is WARPED, you deserve no rights, of any kind, at all!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptown Redneck Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Mr VJP I form my own opinion unlike others who simply recite what they see on Fox News or read from the monthly propaganda issused directly to them from the NRA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Mr VJP I form my own opinion unlike others who simply recite what they see on Fox News or read from the monthly propaganda issused directly to them from the NRA You don't sound scripted at all……….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trial153 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 You don't sound scripted at all……….. I laughed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Mr VJP I form my own opinion unlike others who simply recite what they see on Fox News or read from the monthly propaganda issused directly to them from the NRA Tell us your thoughts on the Confederate Flag..LOL!!…..wait … not now ..Im drinking milk!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptown Redneck Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Tell us your thoughts on the Confederate Flag..LOL!!…..wait … not now ..Im drinking milk!!!! As you can probably tell from my profile pic I'm all for flying the Confederate Flag and if its offends anyone they should blame their parents for raising a cry-baby pu*sy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trial153 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Incrementalism is what we are up against. The NRA understands this better then most do. All we can do is hope to educate gun owners to the dangers of incrementalism .....for that matter the entire construction is peril from the dangers of incremental erosions of our freedom. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) Mr VJP I form my own opinion unlike others who simply recite what they see on Fox News or read from the monthly propaganda issused directly to them from the NRA You may form your own opinion, but whatever you use to base it on, is incredibly flawed and harmful to American's 2nd Amendment rights. You need to bone up on current events. https://www.nraila.org/articles/20151023/polls-show-majority-of-americans-view-nra-favorably-don-t-want-new-gun-controls-and-recognize-right-to-carry-makes-us-safer "Sophisticated gun control supporters are aware of this political reality, and therefore try to obscure their true goal of civilian disarmament whenever possible. In recent days, at least one member of the anti-gun press, Paul Barrett of Bloomberg Businessweek, has taken issue with efficacy of Clinton’s direct attacks on NRA. Whatever Clinton’s current strategy might be, her position on the topic is now, and has been, abundantly clear and is fiercely at odds with the American people." BTW, stating you form your own opinions, while simultaneously stating anyone who disagrees with it isn't very well informed, proves you do not take opposing views into consideration when you form your flawed opinions. Edited October 24, 2015 by Mr VJP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 Seeing how the NRA is now nothing but a group of irrational off the deep end Right Wing fanatics whose views are completely out of step with mine as well as an over whelming majority of sane Americans I can no longer support their warped way of thinking. Regarding your opinion on the overwhelming majority of Americans; There are 300 million Americans 100 million of them own at least 1 firearm 5 million (5%) are NRA members To you that must mean the other 95% of gun owners don't support them. There are only about 2 million current members of the US military. Considering all current service members and living veterans as well, the total only amounts to about 3% of the entire US population. To you that must mean they are right wing radicals completely out of step with the majority of "sane" Americans who don't support their "warped" way of thinking either. You opinion, based on these numbers is invalid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 As you can probably tell from my profile pic I'm all for flying the Confederate Flag and if its offends anyone they should blame their parents for raising a cry-baby pu*sy Good answer…I hope its sincere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigreed Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Honestly some of the things that come out of the NRA are asinine Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 Honestly some of the things that come out of the NRA are asinine Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Well since you put it out there, name some. Perhaps we can educate you as to why they are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 Before you reply, maybe you should read the attached link. This is what the NRA is. "But, is NRA shrinking, retreating or otherwise suffering defeat? This is another myth perpetrated by mainstream media. In fact, during a period of time, from about 1968-1970, as American “elites” attempted to impose top-down severe, European-style gun control laws upon the American public, NRA has grown from about one million members to its present status: five million dues paying members. This present growth in membership in NRA is occurring at a time when, curiously, membership in voluntary associations – and volunteerism, generally – has declined. Thus, the growth of NRA is indicative of an unprecedented mass mobilization of well-informed citizens. Yet, “elite” newspapers and other “elite” media sources cheer-lead NRA defeat. How can the disparity between fact and false reporting of fact be reconciled? Well, quantitative scientific content analysis of “elite” newspaper coverage of NRA shows that “elite” media is entirely unaware of this growth. Do these reporters live in a different world from that of the rest of us? They certainly seem to be more interested in reporting what they wish to be true than in reporting what is in fact true." http://arbalestquarrel.com/nra-freedom-join-it/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 WHY IS NRA THE FOCUS OF ATTACK? NRA is a threat to the plutocrats because NRA exposes the plutocrats’ lies. At present the plutocrats who seek to control the American citizenry cannot directly attack the NRA’s defense of the Second Amendment; for, to do so, amounts to an attack against a cornerstone of the Bill of Rights. What do they do? They attack the NRA obliquely through caustic remarks such as: the NRA only wants to sell guns; the NRA is against sensible gun control laws; the NRA lobbies on behalf of gun manufacturers and not on behalf of Americans; and the NRA isn’t serious about reducing gun violence in America. Implicit in all these remarks, is the notion that the NRA’s primary purpose and function – its modern day raison d’etre, is political influence and legislative action. If so, why is that? Now, it’s certainly true the NRA operates in the political arena, albeit that isn’t its only reason for its existence in the 21st Century. But the NRA’s political operation isn’t something its members or officers had originally sought to do or wished to do. Rather, the NRA was reluctantly compelled to enter the political arena by groups that are themselves politically motivated and, in fact, have no reason to exist other than to defeat the Second Amendment and by extension – to defeat the greatest protector of the Second Amendment – the NRA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 The NRA’s goals are straightforward and virtuous: to preserve and protect the integrity of the Second Amendment. Contrariwise, the myriad antigun groups, springing up virtually at the same time – during the 1970s – have had and, today, continue to have, one goal: the destruction of the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. That is their salient aim. That is their reason for being. And, in that singular disingenuous pursuit, they have operated and continue to operate as top-down propaganda campaigns, financed by plutocrats and ideologues. The one force that can and has stopped them is the NRA. These groups know it, and American citizens know it. It is obvious that the stated purpose of these political groups – to prevent gun violence – is nothing more than a blind. We already have hundreds of so-called “commonsense” gun laws: laws banning felons from possessing guns and laws banning the violent and the mentally ill from possessing guns. We also have background checks. But, the plutocrats, through their antigun front groups, constantly insist on more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 The Bill of Rights must be preserved – indeed strengthened – at every turn. The Bill of Rights consists of Ten Amendments. The NRA’s efforts preserve and protect all of them – not just the Second Amendment. And, your membership dollars is an investment in the preservation of the Bill of Rights – all ten of them. So, the next time you feel that one week’s worth of café lattes at Starbucks is more important to your personal well-being than the cost of an annual membership in the NRA, recall that thought as you wake up one morning and read in the newspaper that the Bill of Rights has been preempted by Federal Statute, International Pacts and Treaties, and Presidential Executive Orders and Signing Statements. Those café lattes will probably taste a tad bitter. Keep in mind, by giving NRA a few dollars you’re not doing NRA a favor. NRA is doing you a favor! America’s Bill of Rights is uniquely American. It’s your birthright. Don’t let anyone take your Birthright from you! Support the NRA! Join now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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