TreeGuy Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Had a friend do some damage to his brand new s&w .44mag. Apparently he used a hot powder and did not accommodate weight accordingly. Nobody injured thankfully ! Edited March 6, 2016 by TreeGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Looks like a double charge..That's easy to do with handguns using fast burning powders that occupy a relatively small amount of room in the case. On the other hand, with most rifle loads, if you double charged a case it would overflow and be obvious. He's very lucky that he or a bystander was not injured. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airedale Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Yikes!!, that was a hot one alright, to blow the cylinder and the top strap like that she had to be way over. Al Edited March 6, 2016 by airedale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 A friend of mine ( now deceased) had a shotgun blow up while shooting trap. A double charge was suspected in that case. A piece of shrapnel from his Win M96 O/U flew over and KILLED the shooter standing at the next station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Dang !. Think I crapped myself a bit just seeing this and thinking of what could have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Yikes!!, that was a hot one alright, to blow the cylinder and the top strap like that she had to be way over. Al Even the FRAME is cracked ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat junkie Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Similar albeit less dramatic damage can occur in handguns where the load takes up too little room in the case allowing the flame from the primer to overshoot the charge lying in the bottom of the case below the flash hole. The resulting pressure wave from a large surface area being ignited directs the pressure upwards before the bullet can leave the case. Edited March 6, 2016 by wildcat junkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat junkie Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Looks like a double charge..That's easy to do with handguns using fast burning powders that occupy a relatively small amount of room in the case. On the other hand, with most rifle loads, if you double charged a case it would overflow and be obvious. For rifle cartridges I always use load densities of near 100% or higher, up to 107%, as it prevents getting even a 2-3 grain overcharge into the case W/O some warning signs at the loading bench during bullet seating. In a rifle cartridge, a load the blows the case head can result in a split stock & splinters of wood flying at high velocity way before catastrophic action failure from excess pressure ensues.. As I send test loads over the chronograph I can watch standard deviation shrink as load density increases to 100% & beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Wow that is pretty scary. Helps remind there is more danger from firearms than simply being shot with one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeGuy Posted March 6, 2016 Author Share Posted March 6, 2016 There were 3 bystanders. No one hit with anything. Still haven't found all the missing pieces though. It was the first shot of a supposed to be all morning shoot, needless to say the shoot did not last very long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Yikes Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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