Uptown Redneck Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 http://nyti.ms/2bouuY0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Proof? HA HA HA. You see proof in this propaganda. Trump says he would be fine with it. He doesn't say he would use Obama's Executive Action ploy to do it. He also knows how it works, and so does the writer of the article. This quote is from the article: "The Military Commissions Act, which governs the tribunals system, does not permit using it for American citizens. While Congress could change that, Mr. Trump’s position was outside the usual spectrum of views about prosecuting terrorism suspects." See the bold italicized part? That's the part Trump understands and you don't. It makes sense not to try TRAITORS SUPPORTED BY TERRORISTS in American courts, unless you wish to put the whole American citizenry in the cross hairs of the jihadist terrorists who will always attempt to attack the trails and the jurors. Seems the one who knows the least about anything is the one who cannot think for himself, while he accuses others of not thinking for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptown Redneck Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) Haven't yet seen any jihadist terrorists attacking any of the criminal trails of terrorists that have been held in any American criminal court. But I suppose this paranoid fear follows the GOP lead attempt, also based upon pure speculation without any proof ever being offered, to outlaw minorities (who overwhelmingly vote democratic) from voting because of often cited but never proved voting fraud Edited August 13, 2016 by Uptown Redneck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Which terrorist trails have been held in a US criminal court? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptown Redneck Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 Look them up, there have been many And before you do anymore whining I will tell you that I am not going to waste my time gathering them for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 LOL! Exactly what I knew you would say. You made an accusation without merit and you just proved it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtTime Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 If you stop feeding this creature it will go away. I hope. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 HOT POCKETS…….YUM!! Quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EspressoBuzz Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Whose Numbers Are They, Anyway? In testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee in November, Holder said, "There are more than 300 convicted international and domestic terrorists currently in Bureau of Prisons custody." Republicans have attacked that number as inaccurate. Jeff Sessions (R-AL), the ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee, called the 300 figure "unsubstantiated." President Bush's former press secretary, Dana Perino, said the statistic is as "false as false gets." But the number actually comes from a Bush administration document. In 2008, the Justice Department submitted a budget request citing "319 convictions or guilty pleas in terrorism or terrorism-related cases arising from investigations conducted primarily after September 11, 2001." The NYU Center on Law and Security conducted its own comprehensive study and came up with yet a higher number. "If you had every single terrorism-related prosecution since 9/11 and you wanted to know the convictions, there would be 523," says the center's director, Karen Greenberg. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123571858 TERRORISM TRIALS IN ARTICLE III COURTS LAURA K. DONOHUE* Some individuals reject Article III courts as a forum for bringing terrorist suspects to justice on the grounds that the ordinary judicial system cannot handle such cases.1 As an empirical matter, this claim is simply false. Since 2001, myriad terrorism trials have progressed through the criminal system.2 The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) reports that between 2001 and 2010, there were 998 defendants indicted in terrorism prosecutions.3 Eighty-seven percent of the defendants were convicted on at least one charge.4 According to the Executive Office for the U.S. Attorneys, from FY 2004 to FY 2009, there were 3,010 terrorism prosecutions.5 It reported 2,663 terrorism convictions during the same time period.6 http://www.harvard-jlpp.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/DonohueSymposium_Final.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) Define "Terrorism" as quoted in your post. Radical Islamic Terrorists, or people that were lumped into the term to make it look like the war on "terror", which seems to have moved away from Radical Islamist Terrorists, the kind that attack trials where they occur, to the domestic type, the kind that are at war with government bureaucracies that they believe infringe on individual freedoms, yet never attack innocent American citizens just to kill as many as they can? I think the latter type are the ones Trump is OK with not using US criminal courts for. Edited August 14, 2016 by Rattler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EspressoBuzz Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 https://sites.duke.edu/tcths/files/2013/06/Kurzman_Terrorism_Cases_Involving_Muslim-Americans_2014.pdf Terrorism Cases Involving Muslim-Americans, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtTime Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 What about that nut case who converted to Islam, got fired from his job and hacked off an innocent womans head, and then assaulted another woman? I guess killing this scum bag was "going to far"? Shameless plug for Papist, because if this doesn't open your eyes, nothing will! http://huntingny.com/forums/topic/34179-oklahoma-muslim-who-beheaded-coworker-“justified-his-actions-based-on-quran”/#comment-489170 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Leftists don't seem to be able to understand terrorism and all of it's different facets. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) For anyone silly enough to convolute what Trump means, or what the media tells you he means........Try looking at what Obama and Hillary actually did. Gary Bauer: "More than 40 years ago, the nation was shocked by the leak and subsequent publication of the Pentagon Papers. ... What was scandalous then ... is the way Obama and Clinton routinely conduct business now. When Obama and Hillary negotiated the nuclear deal with Iran, the administration lied to reporters about secret negotiations and misled Congress and the American people. ... When we paid Iran a ransom for the release of American hostages, the Obama administration acted like a crime syndicate — secretly flying $400 million in foreign currency, loaded onto an unmarked cargo plane, to Tehran in the dark of night. ... When Al Qaeda terrorists murdered four Americans in Benghazi, Obama and Hillary blamed it on a video. When Islamists blow us up, they blame work place violence and try to insist it is anything other than radical Islamic terrorism. When Russia began executing aggressive military maneuvers ... the Obama administration tried to prevent the public from knowing about it. ... A congressional task force concluded that critical intelligence information related to the war against ISIS was manipulated to paint a far rosier picture than actual events on the ground warranted. When it comes to our security, Obama and Clinton have constantly lied in a way that puts the country in greater danger." Edited August 15, 2016 by Rattler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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