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No system is ever going to be perfect. I don't care what the payment plan is, someone making 25K a year is never paying for a $150,000 emergency appendectomy. You still have to take care of them. That's part of being a civilized society.

Any private company I have ever worked for (IBM being one) has always requested that if you are sick, stay home. They don't want people to "tough it out" and make their co-workers sick also. I'm not saying that every sniffle should equal a visit to the doctor, I'm just saying many companies don't want you in the office if you're sick.

I agree they have no right to be here, but if society falls to a level where we'd rather let someone die due to lack of care than foot the bill for helping them, its a pretty sad day for all of us. Patch em up and send them home (where ever home is). You may call it Kool Aid, I call it human compassion for your fellow man. As for adults, he said they should be refused care, not, they should be put on a payment plan.

He was asked if uninsured people who cant afford hospital fees should be turned away from emergency rooms. He said yes (if they aren't children). How is that not denying people who truly need help?

Fair enough, thank you. I apologize for letting my temper get the best of me for a moment.

See above.

Culliver, page 5, second post.

Pure awesome. Thank you.

Because 9/11 was an invasion by a foreign country, amiright? I give up. Wasting millions feeding and caring for the poor and elderly, bad. Wasting millions paying for a largely unused and unneeded military, good. Gotcha. And Elmo, I was in city when the towers fell. I saw it first hand. I lost a cousin and two friends I went to high school with. Its a bit of a sore spot for me, so normally just about now I'd probably tell you to go ---- yourself, but WNY would probably take the opportunity to ban me, so I'll resist the temptation.

How do you propose a foreign nation could move the amount of troops and supplies needed to invade without anyone noticing? Honestly. Please explain that to me. Any where is the part where I say we should destroy all guns and everyone gets to join a commune? We could halve our military and it would STILL be far and away the most powerful in the world. No one is ever going to f*ck with the United States militarily. The fact that you think its possible for an invasion on US soil so we can all get "raped and pillaged" is just foolish. If you want to keep comparing today's military abilities to the 1940s, I'm not even going to address your posts anymore, its just silly.

SLBMs = Submarine Launched Ballistic Missles So I'm confused. It sounded like we needed this huge military to keep a foreign power from attacking US soil and killing us all. But you're worried about killing enemy civilians? Or can we all just stamp this out by saying its completely impractical to think that anyone would invade the US and this bloated military of ours is vastly unneeded? I get it, planes are cool, and hey, what's 80 billion dollars anyway, we can always print more. But feeding our own starving children and taking care of the poor and elderly is also pretty cool, in my opinion at least.

And c'mon...I'm not talking about Star Wars AI robotics here. Unmanned vehicles are what the military has been trending to for almost a decade now.

Unmanned vehicles are much cheaper than manned ones. Especially when you factor in the cost of the soldier.

Again....SLBMs. That is the gun in the knife fight. 45 minutes from first alert to total annihilation, all in one neat little package we can even track ourselves.

And lets also face the fact that the future of warfare is unmanned. There are no crying voters protesting when a robot dies.

I know what the F22 was supposed to be able to do, however, hate to break it to you, but the F22 isn't preforming as advertized. That bubble has been burst. http://dvice.com/archives/2012/08/f-22-raptors-pr.php http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/07/f-22-germans/ http://www.adn.com/2012/08/01/2566745/germans-pilots-claim-dogfight.html Plus, in all honesty, who are we going to be dog fighting with that isn't flying something from the 1960s? Someone mentioned China. Yes, without a doubt, China is the one country that could at least compete with us militarily right now. However, to do so would be incredibly stupid since our economies are so intertwined. Wars like WWII will never be fought again because the weapons are just too powerful. Also, those pesky little satellites might notice an entire nation mobilizing for war. Global economy and SLBMs, that's out deterrent...we'll destroy ourselves way before anyone will pose a significant military threat to this country.

So, you are really trying to compare WWI, WWII and current military technology? Might as well be comparing WWI to sticks and stones. We could level any other country with just our cruise missiles. Their isn't military in the world that can hold a candle to ours. Our SLBM's are the only deterrent we ever need.

Sorry, I forgot to clarify, I'm talking about Staten Island, part of NYC. No hunting at all here, and no predators. Just a deer population that should never have been allowed to grow unchecked for a decade.

I saw six (6) deer in a span of 5 minutes while driving home from work late last night. First I saw a buck nibbling on some low branches just inside the guard rail along the side of 440, between exits 3 and 2. Then I saw two yearlings (one was pibald) feeding along the side of the 440 exit 2 wrap around to Richmond Parkway. Next, I saw two mature buck standing in the middle of Bloomingdale Road. I had to slow down and flash my brights until the spooked enough to run back into the woods. Lastly, I saw a mature doe grazing on the side of Bloomingdale Road, a little further up.' This is getting crazy, and no one will address the issue until someone gets seriously injured or dies in a car accident.

Ants, this is what currently happens now, except you aren't fined. Hospitals can't refuse to give you care if you show up in their emergency room. Who do you think pays the bills for the uninsured now? I'll give you two guesses, but you'll probably only need one.

I actually am all for less spending, but health care for the poor is not where I feel we should be cutting costs. There are always going to be people abusing the system, but that doesn't mean you can abandon the people who truly need the help. How about trimming a few hundred billion from the defense budget? Do we really need 11 carrier groups? That's more than the rest of the world combined, including allies. How about the nice $140 million a pop asphyxiation device, the F22 Raptor (80 BILLION project cost for a plane that's a slightly better version of the F117)? Its going to be awesome when they finally figure out how to stop it from killing our own pilots. Or the 50,000+ troops we still keep in Germany just in case....ummm...someone...decides to start a land war in Europe. Or the countless other examples of needless military projects that politicians lobby for so they can get votes? But no, its easier to just throw the poor under the bus because they can't fight back.

Oh, I get it now. My bad. You meant they can have treatment as long as they are willing to submit to slavery, errr, I mean, indentured servitude. Have you seen what uninsured hospital care costs? They can just put the poor to work mopping the floors and serving in the cafeteria. At minimum wage, they can pay off that minor surgery in 5-8 years. That's a reasonable solution.

So, your answer is let uninsured people die. Wow. Trying for formulate more, but I'm just stuck at "Wow".

Prime example of a multimillionaire trying to influence lower and middle income employees to vote against their own interests by implying their jobs are in jeopardy. This is also the man that claimed to be "personally responsible" for GWB 2000 victory in Florida using tactics that "may not necessarily have been legal." Stay classy, Mr. Seigel. Flame On!

Some people just don't want to. My brother won't shoot bear. He doesn't like the taste and won't shoot anything he doesn't eat because he doesn't care for the trophy. He also won't shoot bobcat. Personally, I think he's just weird, but it's choice. Also, walking to your stand in the dark during bow season, face to face, only a short distance from a black bear, I don't think you're thinking about firing off an arrow at it. I sure wouldn't be, at least.