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I have to admit, this made me laugh out loud.

As promised. You might want to pin this up for the next four years. I think this will be a very busy thread. Said no one, ever. Ok, it's all out of my system now. Now back to our regularly scheduled hunting talk.

Yep, I heard the same thing last night, starting today.

I drove my boss home last night to Freehold NJ. Took me 15 minutes to gas up at Costco on the way back to SI (around 10PM). Within a week everything should be back to normal.

+1 on the .300 WSM. That is what my Rem 700 is and I love it. It can leave you sore if you put 20+ rounds through it at the range though.

There's always next year, let hope he makes it through this one.

Smallest bear I've ever seen.

John and WNY do bring up a great point. This place costs money to run and advertising most likely brings in the bulk of that money. If nothing else, I hope this thread raises awareness to that often overlooked fact. If you don't want more things like this popping up, take the time to browse http://huntingny.com/forums/store/ and purchase a membership. I just realized that my coffee bill for the week is more than what a year of support costs. Kick in $10 to keep this place going strong! Edit: Errr...John, check your PayPal account settings. It just gave me an error when I tried to purchase "Hunting NY Gold Supporting Member - 1 Year".

Hahaha, this might be my favorite post ever. This is a microcosm of everything wrong with this country. I understand this guy is a sponsor, and for that he gets his little ad banner on the side. I've actually looked at the product too, and it does indeed have some interesting features that if I consistently went hunting with a group of friends, I probably would think are pretty cool. That being said, if this guy didn't give money to the site, that first post would be ripped apart as BLATANT product placement and most likely complete and utter BS. It was like someone held a contest for who could insert "DL" into a paragraph as many times as possible and this was the winning entry. At least CHC and Steve remained true to form. The mods....tisk tisk. Thanks for the chuckle though.

I'm with WNY for this one. Before, because they sense the incoming weather and will want to feed. After, because after they have been bed down for a day or two they will be hungry.

Hmm, not sure what Wiki page you mean, but from the census info I have, the population of the state is a little under 19.5 million, about 8.2 million of which live in the five boroughs of NYC. Maybe if you include Long Island and Westchester? I'd have to do the research, because I usually only deal with the city. Either way, I do understand your point.

Can anyone suggest another place in 3M that I might be able to fill this DMP?

That's pretty awesome, John.

I've never heard of that either, and if it is illegal, I'd like to know. When I go hunting with my brother or friends we always send texts back and forth if something is spotted and seems to be moving in the direction of another hunter.

I'm not rehashing my arguments for someone jumping in at page 10 of a post, but if you read the thread, we are not crazy, we just feel we should have to do something illegal before we are ticketed for doing something illegal. Walking around the woods with a loaded weapon is not a crime. And this thread started with this scenario in mind: You hunted legally all day. You stay in the woods till sunset At that point you start back out to your truck because you can no longer legally hunt deer. The DEC officer who happens to be waiting at your truck writes you a ticket because while you were leaving the woods, you didn't unload your weapon yet and its after legal hunting hours.

Or you can read the humorous version from Cracked.com. http://www.cracked.c...ng-america.html "There's a pretty important detail our movies and textbooks left out of the handoff from Native Americans to white European settlers: It begins in the immediate aftermath of a full-blown apocalypse. In the decades between Columbus' discovery of America and the Mayflower landing at Plymouth Rock, the most devastating plague in human history raced up the East Coast of America. Just two years before the pilgrims started the tape recorder on New England's written history, the plague wiped out about 96 percent of the Indians in Massachusetts. In the years before the plague turned America into The Stand, a sailor named Giovanni da Verrazzano sailed up the East Coast and described it as "densely populated" and so "smoky with Indian bonfires" that you could smell them burning hundreds of miles out at sea. Using your history books to understand what America was like in the 100 years after Columbus landed there is like trying to understand what modern day Manhattan is like based on the post-apocalyptic scenes from I Am Legend. Historians estimate that before the plague, America's population was anywhere between 20 and 100 million (Europe's at the time was 70 million). The plague would eventually sweep West, killing at least 90 percent of the native population. For comparison's sake, the Black Plague killed off between 30 and 60 percent of Europe's population. While this all might seem like some heavy s*** to lay on a bunch of second graders, your high school and college history books weren't exactly in a hurry to tell you the full story. Which is strange, because many historians believe it is the single most important event in American history. But it's just more fun to believe that your ancestors won the land by being the superior culture. European settlers had a hard enough time defeating the Mad Max-style stragglers of the once huge Native American population, even with superior technology. You have to assume that the Native Americans at full strength would have made s*** powerfully real for any pale faces trying to settle the country they had already settled. Of course, we don't really need to assume anything about how real the American Indians kept it, thanks to the many people who came before the pilgrims. For instance, if you liked playing cowboys and Indians as a kid, you should know that you could have been playing vikings and Indians, because that s*** actually happened. But before we get to how they kicked Viking a**, you probably need to know that ..." Edit: Seems they like to cuss a bit over there

I'm sorry, my estimates were incorrect. Up to 95% of the native people died between when Columbus "discovered" the Americas and when the Mayflower landed. http://www.pbs.org/gunsgermssteel/variables/smallpox.html Smallpox was a bitch.

Not sure how that would be considered trolling, since its historically documented material (just not the stuff you learn when you're young). Anyway, no luck this season so far. I've only been out in the field two days though (one which I documented). This is the busiest time of the year for me, work-wise, but hopefully things will slow down a bit after the election and I'll have a decent regular/MZ season.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought. Thanks for the warning. I may try to take a day off during the week in MZ and try it out.

I disagree that its a "classic example of the tail wagging the dog", unless you are speaking geographically. Almost half the population in the state is located in the 5 Boroughs of NY City. Those people deserve the representation as much as anyone else. I love upstate, one day I hope to buy a place three or four hours from the city and eventually retire up there. You are right in saying that there are a lot of people that live in the city and have no clue what its like to live upstate, but the same is true vice versa. Strictly by the numbers, the rest of the state could overrule anything the city wanted. Of course in practice, we know it doesn't work like that.

One of the reasons, at least... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/track-presidential-campaign-ads-2012/ If you want to be catered to, you better live in one of these places.

I don't see this as a fair comparison. If the fish are illegal and he has possession of the fish, actually seeing him pull the fish out of the water is not needed. Having an unloaded weapon in my car is legal. Holding a bullet is legal. This changes, of course, if the officer sees you fidgeting with your weapon as he approaches your car.

By any chance, do his dogs resemble coyotes? In dim light, maybe?

That place can be pretty packed on the weekends during regular season, how is it during bow? I have a 3M DMP that I would rather not see go to waste.

Me too. Ya figure two weeks + a week or so of gloating/crying?