grrr I suppose you are mad now gash darn it. If you took the time to read the post as I said the first one I was agreeing with you. You made the blanket statement some MENTOR was showing some kid how to do things illegally.In other words the program is bad. Did you ass-u-me this, or did you witness the act? So I made a blanket statement back saying I guess it is better than not hearing the bows shooting at the same time. I never said you were doing anything illegal, but you do seem to be carrying a guilty conscience. I also said if you look back through the threads, you will see many here think it is no big deal to hunt from daylight until dark. I never said you did anything like that. But again it seems like you have a guilty conscience. Now feel free to try to call me names again. I have explained my self I think quite clearly. But, if you feel differently, at least explain yourself ok.