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hey guys just wondering how many shells i am allowed to have in my shotgun for duck hunting?
did you check the regulations?
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Just saw this on News12.com. A Malverne Firefighter who was hunting up in Oneonta was killed in a hunting accident. RIP.
MALVERNE - A Malverne firefighter was killed in a weekend hunting accident in upstate New York.
Members of the Malverne Fire Department have purple and black bunting on the building and their flags are at half-staff in honor of 52-year-old Charlie Bruce. Members say the father of two, who lived in Franklin Square, had a passion for firefighting, golfing, smoking cigars and hunting.
The chief says the shooter that accidentally killed Bruce was a former firefighter at the department and is very distraught over what happened.
I was just watching News 12 and saw the same, apparently the shooter mistook him for a deer.......................I hate to be the one to say this, but how does that happen?
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they just ran the story on my local News Station, shot by a friend who mistook him for a deer.............
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Here is another observation relative to the OP. After the first hour of opening day. deer are put on full alert and enter survival mode. It used to be that large drives, and still-hunters kept the deer moving (and visible). Not so today. Many hunters are "sit and wait" hunters. So you have all these guys plunked down next to a tree, and all the deer plunked down in some nasty areas where guys won't go. The advent of clothing technology has allowed guys to sit tight. The advent of Saturday morning hunting programs has convinced them to do so. So the thing is that the deer may very well be there and nobody is forcing them to become visible.
Now add to that how the state parking lots empty out by noon and a lot of guys figure that is the end of their season, and it turns out that the remainder of the season has very few hunters in the woods to move deer that have gone nocturnal. Just enough to let the deer know that they had better stay nocturnal.
There is also the posting and under-hunting of a whole lot of private land. Land bought up and hunted by tiny groups of hunters, again make situations where deer in survival mode are allowed to simply sit tight and make everything appear like there are no deer left in the woods.
Yes, this is all just a lot of theorizing based on some observations only in one little area of one little WMU, but I have to wonder if these scenarios don't take place in many areas and WMUs across the state. It definitely would cast a very misleading picture of the deer populations of today compared to the apparent situations of years ago.
I think what you just described is exactly what has happened to my area...........especially when you can drive the roads before the season and count numerous deer, a few weeks later it's like they were never even there.
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Don't get me wrong Cusehunter; it's great to get input from others who may have more experience or different perspectives, and I'm not just directing my "read the book" comments at you, I just hate to see people rely on sometimes questionable or flat out incorrect information when there is a free official source readily available.
you're 100% correct, if anyone needs information on the regulations, READ the regulations.......these sites are great for a lot of advise, but if you want the correct legal advise, go elsewhere.
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I find no need to read about things which were already taught to me by an instructor. If I did then I'd find myself reading all day on every subject under the sun.
the stuff taught in the hunter's ed class barely touches on all the regulations that everyone should know before heading out hunting.....it's a "hunter safety course" and that's about it.
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Bring a wire tie with you and just fill it out and attatch it... For anyone who has never tagged a deer, bring a zipplock bag to put the tag in. Know the town, WMU and date and fill them when you recover the animal.
no need to attach till your done dragging and at the point of transport or at your camp.............no reason to risk having it tear off and losing it.
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once again, I'm amazed by the amount of people who don't bother to familiarize themselves with the regulations...........
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Tagging
Here's what you must do immediately upon killing a deer or bear:
- Fill in all information on the carcass tag and report tag with ink that won't erase.
Detach the carcass tag from the report tag. Once filled in, the tag may not be altered.
Keep the report tag, you will need it when you report your deer or bear.
The month and date must also be cut or marked in ink on the margin of the carcass tag.
You do not need to attach the tag to the carcass while it is being dragged or physically carried from the place of kill to a camp or point where transportation is available.
Once you get to the camp or vehicle, attach the tag to the deer or bear immediately.
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FYI
"You do not need to attach the tag to the carcass while it is being dragged or physically carried from the place of kill to a camp or point where transportation is available."
FYI, it needs to be filled out IMMEDIATELY after taking the deer.....not after transporting it back to camp to figure out what tag goes on it.
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It looks like the original poster is totally disgusted by what his family does...........if it's that bad and bothers someone that much, either step up and do something about it or just suck it up and let it eat away at you.................simple enough
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I have presided over many court cases when I was a JP and I can tell you with great deal of certainty that a traffic infraction is tougher to prove when a person turns someone in for it No police officer is going to ticket someone for a traffic infraction unless they saw it. And I can also assure that that a traffic infraction is much different than the misdemeanors we are talking about. I did not answer your question because honestly it makes no sense as there is no comparison. But if you want to justify watching people break the law and do nothing about it, that is your choice.
exactly......I was just about to say the same thing.
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From what I've heard, mind everyone it's what I've heard. He was shot by a member of his hunting party. Supposedly the shooter heard a noise in the brush and shot. Unfortunate for the victim. Prayers for the Bruce family.
that's all too often the case........what a shame.
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I always thought the "brown it's down group" was guys that shot any legal deer regardless of size or age............apparently they're also dangerous poachers too.
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what did your family say when you told them how you feel?
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What's your average walk in ? 1 mile or more ??
5 miles uphill, there and back......
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yessss!! another thread that has deviated from the intentions of the original poster and is starting to turn ugly........gotta love it!
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the two things I learned from this forum are, don't post about killing a deer until you have it in hand and the second is that some folks get ripped about shooting and losing a deer while others can do the same and not get half as much grief about doing the same
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if you double lung a deer and it runs any kind of distance, it's the deer that did it, not the failure of the broadhead.............some deer just react differently than others, I have personally had double lung deer run close to 200 yards, and what does that take, a few seconds?
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You too keep us posted
you wouldn't happen to be up by Perch Lake near the Pepacton Reservoir would you?
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I'll leave mine back at the house........40 cal. Glock, not what I consider a hunting handgun, so I can do without more stuff to carry around.
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I don't think there is any minimum barrel lengths for revolvers.
I think you're correct...........
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The problem is not just the dogs,Some of the people want a dog but are just too Lazy to train them Not to do certine things.I have many dogs in my lifetime, most were muts that other people disgarded,my father being kind harted as he was would take them in.
Only one has ever bitten anyone and that was a huskey/sheppard mix and not the dogs fault a neghbor tryed to take a bone from it as it was eating.
The most friendly and obident of all the dogs is the one I have now at 105 pounds a Lab./Mountian Kur mix. One of my neighbors asked why he obeys you as he does.My comment was,They are no different the one of your childen, you have to train them when they are young.But again you have to remember the all still have that hunting instink.
my dogs can get a bad instink too..........I just wash them with regular shampoo and that usually takes care of it.....but, I will say, an instink is better than an outstink.
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pointers/flushing (i have used my golden to flush) is still a bit of a stretch for "hunting". I think of treeing an animal or running it down when I think of hunting dogs. every breed can have its exceptions of course.
upland bird dogs are without question doing the hunting for the shooter following them........it certainly isn't the handler who is picking up the scent and tracking down the bird.
Malverne Firefighter killed in Hunting Accident
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when you intentionally shoot something, is that really an accident? a stray bullet, malfunctioning gun or mishandling a gun can all lead to accidental shootings.........but aiming a gun at something and pulling the trigger with the intention of shooting it? I have a tough time calling that an accident.